You Seem Fine Podcast

With Main Character Energy, Comes Great Responsibility

Fri, 20 Feb 2026 10:03:00 GMT

Season Finale!

Hot Take: Emotional ownership isn’t just awareness — it requires skill-building, accountability, and ESPECIALLY therapy.

We talk a lot about being emotionally aware. Naming feelings. Knowing our triggers. Asking for space. But awareness alone isn’t emotional ownership — and this season finale asks the harder question: what do we do with our emotions once we notice them?

In this episode, Roland and Hannah break down emotional ownership as an active, ongoing practice that goes far beyond insight or good intentions. They explore why emotional intelligence isn’t something we’re just supposed to “figure out,” and why developing EQ requires the same kind of education, coaching, and structure as any other skill. Friends can support us — but they aren’t trained to challenge patterns, hold accountability, or create the safety needed to grow.

Through metaphors, clinical insight, and honest reflection, this conversation tackles avoidance, ghosting, accountability, boundaries, and the responsibility that comes with taking up emotional space. At its core, the episode makes a bold case for therapy as the place where emotional ownership is learned, practiced, and integrated — not perfected, but strengthened over time.

I Like My Money Where I Can See It-- Hanging in my Closet.

Fri, 06 Feb 2026 10:00:03 GMT

Hot Take: Is Work to Live or Live to Work better? Neither mindset is inherently better — sustainable work–life balance matters more than choosing a side.

Is it healthier to work so you can live, or live so you can work? In this episode, Roland and Hannah dig into one of the most debated questions in modern culture and unpack why the answer isn’t as simple as picking a philosophy.

They explore how both mentalities offer structure, purpose, freedom, and fulfillment — but also come with real costs when taken to extremes. From hustle culture and productivity-as-worth to privilege, burnout, and nervous system overload, this conversation highlights how work shapes identity, values, and well-being far beyond a paycheck.

Rather than framing the debate as either/or, the episode invites listeners to look inward: How does your body respond to your work life? What needs are being met — or ignored? And what would balance look like if it were defined by your values instead of cultural pressure?

Because the goal isn’t choosing the “right” mentality — it’s building a life that actually feels livable.

The Cost of Caring (Not Covered by Insurance)

Fri, 23 Jan 2026 10:01:00 GMT

Hot Take: Professions that routinely absorb secondary or vicarious trauma should require ongoing therapy or structured mental-health evaluations.

In this episode, Roland and Hannah are joined by attorney Chip Clapp to unpack a provocative but necessary conversation about care, responsibility, and sustainability in trauma-exposed professions. From healthcare and law to therapy and emergency response, many roles require people to hold the emotional weight of others—often without adequate support.

Together, they explore what vicarious trauma actually is, how it shows up over time, and why compartmentalization and “toughing it out” aren’t long-term solutions. The conversation moves beyond individual resilience to examine systemic responsibility: What does it mean to truly respect professions built on empathy? How do we balance personal accountability with accessible, ethical support structures? And what would prevention look like if we took emotional wear and tear as seriously as physical safety?

This episode invites listeners—especially helpers, healers, and advocates—to rethink burnout, normalize care, and imagine a future where tending to mental health isn’t optional, but essential.

Who is the Overwhelmed Achiever?

Sun, 11 Jan 2026 10:05:00 GMT

Spotlight Episode: Understanding overwhelm as a nervous system response, not a personal failure.

What happens when being “high-functioning” doesn’t actually feel functional? In this spotlight episode, Hannah takes listeners inside The Overwhelmed Achiever — a framework for understanding people who appear capable, driven, and successful, yet feel chronically stressed, exhausted, or never quite enough.

We explore how overwhelm often develops as an adaptive response to pressure, trauma, and a culture that rewards productivity over well-being. From imposter syndrome and burnout to perfectionism and high-functioning anxiety, this episode unpacks how achievement can quietly turn into survival — and what it looks like to interrupt that pattern with intention.

This episode invites you to notice your body, question inherited definitions of success, and practice pausing without guilt.

Because sometimes the most radical act for an achiever isn’t doing more — it’s deciding you’ve already done enough.

Her Sister Was a Witch!

Fri, 26 Dec 2025 10:04:00 GMT

Hot Take: Many people who meet criteria for a mental health diagnosis aren’t “pathologically ill” — their bodies are responding appropriately to mis-attuned, oppressive, and unsafe systems.

In this episode, Roland and Hannah are joined by Dr. Monica Band for a deeply nuanced conversation about mental health, diagnosis, and what we often miss when we pathologize human responses to cultural harm. Together, they explore the idea that anxiety, depression, dissociation, and burnout may not always be signs of something “wrong” with a person — but adaptive responses to environments that demand too much, offer too little, or fail to keep people safe.

They unpack the role of diagnosis as both a tool and a limitation: how labels can bring clarity and access to care, while also reinforcing stigma, othering, and a false sense of defectiveness. The conversation challenges all-or-nothing thinking, social media over-diagnosing, and the pressure to be “normal,” while making space for resilience, post-traumatic growth, and community as medicine.

This episode invites listeners to move away from self-blame and toward curiosity — asking not just what’s wrong with me? but what might my nervous system be responding to?

Because sometimes healing isn’t about fixing yourself — it’s about changing the conditions around you.

FIND DR. MONICA BAND HERE:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/monica-p-band-washington-dc/350458

https://www.mindfulhealingcounseling.com/dr-monica-p-band

What is the Playlist Protocol?

Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:49:54 GMT

00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:19- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:20- Hannah's Explanation

04:09- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:01- Roland's Explanation

08:04- Hot Take Intro

08:20- Spotlight! Playlist Protocol

08:41- Playlist Protocol background

09:18- What is it?

10:03- Nostalgia is key

10:57- More Personal & Provocative

11:31- Must be within therapy

12:41- Playlists around specificity to process

13:07- Parts work?!

14:00- Process & Heal

14:14- Music is Therapeutic

14:36- Neural Nostalgia

15:06- Formative Years Roots

15:31- Foundational & Step Process

16:26- What's the science?

16:39- Neuroscience- Music & Memory

17:18- Songs can bypass the thinking brain

17:48- EMDR / Brainspotting adjacent

18:39- White Noise or Nature sounds adjacent

19:34- Lyrics, Beat, Music All Matter

21:04- Dissonance can be interpreted

22:11- Memories AND Beat

23:29- Playlists are common for people

24:14- Music Reflects Feelings

25:17- Relatable, Memory, or New

26:11- Re-trauma or Re-trigger (Feedback Loop)

27:25- Music as coping mechanism

28:10- Relapse is easy

30:06- Narrative Therapy & Music

31:29- Re-tell their stories (physical writing)

31:52- WET (Written Exposure Therapy)

32:30- Re-telling the story where you are now

33:09- Habit Stacking

34:35- Tailored to many approaches

35:42- Where is the Playlist Protocol going?

36:04- Book? Podcast? CEs? Coming Soon!

37:28- Takeaways

38:05- Be creative with music to reflect YOU

38:33- Reflect on every playlist & what it's doing for you!

38:41- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

39:14- Behind the Couch (Roland)

39:35- Client accounts to help create Protocol

39:59- 30 Day Song Challenges w/ Clients

40:36- Themed Playlists for Reflection

41:09- Inject some fun into therapy

41:17- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

41:30- Music as a coping skill

41:43- Habit stacking with music

42:11- Insight to Client Emotions

42:58- Mirroring

43:18- Music puts words to emotion

43:48- All things creative are perfect for therapy space

44:41- Bilateral music playlists to calm down/settle in

45:27- Under the Cushion (Roland)

45:46- Music is always on

46:03- All genres

46:23- Driving & Music is cathartic

46:51- Cultural Experiences w/ music

47:06- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

47:08- Music is everything

47:26- Chaotic music playlists

47:48- Words to emotions & normalize feelings

48:03- Outro

So You Think You Can Advocate?

Fri, 28 Nov 2025 10:00:00 GMT

Hot Take: Do better & get involved — advocacy is more accessible than you think when you know your values, strengths, and what you can offer.

This week, Roland and Hannah sit down with lawyer and activist Emma Shahabi for a powerhouse conversation about what it really means to get involved in activism. Spoiler: it’s not about being perfect, politically fluent, or chronically online — it’s about knowing who you are, what you care about, and how your skills can support a movement.

Emma breaks down the biggest myths and barriers that stop people from taking action, from the “I’m not political” mindset to the fear of messing up. Together, the trio explores how identity, privilege, and intersectionality shape our roles in advocacy, and why small, consistent actions can create just as much impact as large-scale organizing.

Whether you’re a seasoned organizer or someone wondering where to start, this conversation reminds you that advocacy isn’t about doing everything — it’s about doing your thing, with intention, courage, and community.

Here are some accounts that Emma referenced in the episode. You're encouraged to look into these accounts and find similar ones to efforts you believe in.

@dear_white_staffers

@btnewsroom

@theslowfactory

@pslnational

@palestinianyouthmovement

@intersectionalenvironmentalist

You is Kind. You is Smart. You is Important.

Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:31:00 GMT

Hot Take: You have to love yourself before you can love someone else.

It’s a phrase we’ve all heard — maybe even said — but what does it really mean to “love yourself first”? In this episode, Roland and Hannah break down the complexities behind one of self-help culture’s most repeated mantras.

They explore the pressure this saying can create, especially when love isn’t linear, self-esteem fluctuates, and healing doesn’t have a clear endpoint. What if you’re capable of loving others deeply even while struggling to love yourself? Who decides when you’re “enough” to deserve love — and how do we redefine what that even means?

Through real talk and reflection, the hosts dive into authenticity, boundaries, and what it looks like to care for yourself without falling into perfectionism or hyper-independence. From reframing self-love as a practice to finding joy in your own company, this episode invites listeners to replace judgment with gentleness — and remember that love, for self and others, is an ongoing process.

I've Got a Blank Slate, baby, and I'll Write Your Name

Fri, 31 Oct 2025 09:34:00 GMT

Hot Take: Self-disclosure is necessary and therapeutically beneficial in the therapy room.

This week, Roland and Hannah are joined by psychologist Dr. Chloe Goldbach for a candid conversation on one of the most debated topics in the therapy world: therapist self-disclosure. Should clinicians be a “blank slate”? Or does sharing parts of ourselves actually make the therapeutic relationship stronger?

Together, they explore how self-disclosure can foster trust, model vulnerability, and create more authentic connections — especially in communities where shared experience matters. From challenging the rigid “never self-disclose” lessons taught in grad school to unpacking how culture, identity, and power shape disclosure, this conversation blends clinical insight with real-world nuance.

Dr. Goldbach brings a feminist therapy lens to the table, emphasizing how therapist humanity isn’t a flaw — it’s a strength. Whether you’re a clinician rethinking your stance or someone curious about what happens behind the therapy room door, this episode invites you to consider how showing up as yourself can be a radical act of care.

https://lgbtcounselingdmv.com/dr-chlo%C3%AB-goldbach%2C-ph-d

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/chloe-goldbach-arlington-va/1317255

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheChloeConnection (Also on IG!)

https://www.amazon.com/Counseling-Gender-Expansive-World-Resources-Therapeutic-ebook/dp/B0BJ172NDN

If You Wanna Be My Lover

Fri, 17 Oct 2025 09:01:00 GMT

Hot Take: Friendships in your 30s should be quality over quantity.

As we move through our 30s, friendships start to look different. The spontaneous hangouts get fewer, the group chats get quieter, and suddenly “catching up soon” turns into “maybe next month.” In this episode, Roland and Hannah unpack what it really means to have quality friendships in adulthood — and why that phrase might be more complicated than we think.

They explore how our energy, priorities, and sense of connection shift as we grow, and how that impacts the way we show up for one another. What happens when a friendship no longer fits? How do we navigate the grief of drifting apart while making space for new, more aligned connections? And what if it’s not really about choosing between quality or quantity — but about finding what’s fulfilling and sustainable for you?

Through humor, honesty, and a few hard truths, this episode dives into the evolving meaning of friendship, the necessity of boundaries, and the power of building community that actually feels like home.

Because friendship in your 30s isn’t about how many people you have — it’s about who helps you feel seen, supported, and safe to grow.

Chef's Kiss

Fri, 08 Aug 2025 14:09:42 GMT

The Season Finale is here! This episode we explore perfectionism and the sneaky ways it shows up in our lives. Perfectionism is a personality trait characterized by a relentless pursuit of flawlessness and high standards. It can manifest as self-motivation and drive to achieve success, but often leads to anxiety & low self-worth when standards aren't met. Time to get to the bottom of the "good enough's" and kick obligation to curb 'cause imperfect is the new perfect.

00:00- Opening

00:13- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:19- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:53- Roland's Explanation

02:33- Stay true to yourself!

02:41- Hannah's Swiftie Song

03:09- Hannah's Explanation

03:25- Maladaptive Daydreaming

05:03- Hot Take Intro

05:10- Perfectionism!

05:41- Definition of Perfectionism

05:54- 3 Kinds of Perfectionism

06:10- Self Oriented/Socially Prescribed/Other Oriented

07:50- Nuance is helpful to differentiate

08:17- Inability to release control

08:56- Hannah's Hot Take

09:30- Image we want, we project on others

10:26- Society Gives Us Sense of Perfection

11:45- Perfectionism is mix of Nature & Nurture

12:38- What of the 3 Kind's Is Hannah's Hot Take?

12:51- Socially Prescribed

14:14- Roland's Hot Take

15:45- Never-ending Feedback Loop

16:02- Perfectionism Breeds Failure

17:02- Imperfect is learning

18:38- The HOW is important

19:30- Perfectionism Erodes Society

20:50- Checking & Re-Checking

21:08- Chronic Procrastination

22:40- Research Attacks the Pod

23:18- Swap Perfect for Done

23:59- Good Enough Reps

26:07- Schedule Rest

27:06- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

27:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

27:34- Dishes as a Good Enough Rep

29:29- Goal of an Aha! Moment

29:45- Using Obligation/Contract Verbiage to Challenge

31:04- Take Back Control

32:13- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

32:25- Overwhelmed Achiever Overlap

32:55- Empowerment & Reinvention

34:21- Self-Imposed High

35:04- Inner Child Work

35:18- CBT

37:06- Safe with Emotions

38:35- Under the Cushion (Roland)

38:45- Grades Were Important (GT/AP Kid)

40:24- Challenged Perfectionism

42:07- Would Not Classify Perfectionism Out loud

42:50- We're Frenemies!

42:55- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

43:36- Grew Up Thinking of Failure

43:58- Perfectionism & Imposter Syndrome

44:33- Other Oriented

46:08- Unfairness of Expectations

48:18- Not Assigning the Emotional Piece

50:28- Other Oriented Feels Helpless

50:38- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Mirror Mirror on the Wall

Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:34:13 GMT

This Episode is certainly the fairest of them all! Hannah and Roland sit down to discuss Narcissism. Narcissism is commonly referred to as a personality trait characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a constant need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. And, surprise! Hannah and Roland have the same Hot Take! Whether it's identifying the gaslighting, demystifying the buzzwords, or beating a tiktoker over the head with the DSM, put down the poison apple and pay attention. Call it vain, maybe even call it arrogant, but we KNOW you'll want to hear this.

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal Disclosure

00:47- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:23- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:37- Roland's Explanation

02:45- Verbiage is Important; no wasted time

04:28- Compartmentalization

04:44- Hannah's Swiftie Song

05:32- Hannah's Explanation

06:08- Working through monotony

07:13- Hopeful in the Mud

07:16- Hot Take Intro

07:23- Narcissism

07:31- Trigger Warning

08:35- Narcissist Label Can Only Be Used by Mental Health Professional

10:00- Hannah & Roland Have the same Hot Take!

10:36- No Normalizing Narcissism

12:21- Narcissism is not a giant spectrum

12:54- Narcissistic Personality Disorder/DSM Diagnosis

14:13- Frequency is Important to Notice

15:01- Selfishness/Arrogance is Conflated to Narcissism

15:45- Grandiosity is the keyword

16:40- Narcissism Buzzwords

17:54- Maladaptive, not just attention seeking

19:29- Need to be seen vs. Who Should See Me?

20:51- Manipulation

21:05- Gaslighting

23:29- Gaslighting is always pointed

24:57- Psychological Dominance

26:38- Again, NPD Only Be Used By Mental Health Professionals!

27:26- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

27:31- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

28:30- Psychoeducation Soapbox; Add Tendencies After

30:03- Compassion & Empathy

31:05- Recovery from Narcissistic Abuse

32:45- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:15- Comorbidities & Differentials

34:04- Covert NPD or BPD?!

35:18- Therapy Wise- Confrontation is good

37:24- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

38:01- Gray Rocking

39:57- Better to Regulate Self than Fuel Fire

40:13- Under the Cushion (Roland)

40:26- Quiet Undertaking

41:24- Remove Self Before Falling Prey

42:40- Code Speech

43:35- Duty to Report Only Caveat

43:51- Outro

**This podcast does not serve as Mental Health Therapy with a Licensed Professional. This podcast is for educational purposes only. If topics from the podcast resonate with you, we recommend consulting a mental health provider for tailored support.

A Whole New World

Fri, 11 Jul 2025 09:00:00 GMT

Join Hannah and Roland—along with special guest Megan Anderson—as they explore the world and uncover the mental health benefits of travel. From reigniting creativity to finding your environmental reset, discover how immersion sparks personal growth. This journey is packed with insights. Buckle up—new horizons await, and you won’t want to miss it.

00:00- Opening

00:14- Legal Disclosure

00:43- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

00:53- Roland's Swiftie Song

01:27- Roland's Explanation

03:14- Hannah's Swiftie Song

03:35- Hannah's Explanation

07:10- Uh-oh, Reality Therapy Roland Showed Up

10:08- Hot Take Intro

10:15- Travel & Mental Health!

10:28- Guest Megan Anderson Speaks!

11:13- Travel is Self Care & Prevents Burnout

12:19- 45 COUNTRIES?! 5 CONTINENTS?!

16:18- Megan's Hot Take

16:55- Travel is a Source to Reignite Creativity

18:45- Travel is a Step Back & Peace

20:08- Roland's Hot Take

20:45- Environmental Reset is Important to Re-Center

22:44- Megan's Travel Story

23:43- Megan's Travel Quote

25:45- Travel Became Growth

25:58- Hannah's Hot Take

28:40- Being Immersed is Key

29:35- Uncomfortable with the Comfortable

30:25- Similarly on Smaller Scales is ALSO important

33:21- Being Present & Safe

36:15- Intention is the Anchor

40:20- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

40:28- Behind the Couch (Roland)

42:33- Ask Where Client's Have Always Wanted to Go?

43:33- Always Ask Within Means

44:19- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

45:19- Discuss skills alongside travel stories

47:18- Values & Problem Solving & Curiosity

49:45- Under the Cushion (Roland)

50:28- First Vacation Ever? 17 yrs old!

52:08- True Experience of Travel (Mind Blowing)

53:06- Creative Reset & Gob smacked Feeling

53:51- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

54:00- 2 years old was first flight~

54:30- Mystery Rides!

56:29- Spring Breaks All Over

58:44- Broaden Tools through other cultures

01:01:47- Outro

It's Not A Phase, Mom!

Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:33:00 GMT

I swear he's all panic, and definitely no disco. Get your straighteners, cheap CVS black hair dye, and be ready for Warped Tour. Roland Scheppske is bringing the heat this week on You Seem Fine Podcast with his turn in the hot seat. You may need to flip your bangs some or let out a scream while Roland talks about grief in day-to-day life, or the idea of a more holistic approach to mental health that he dubs as full body. In fact, be ready for a full rant on what this would look like if all medical, mental, and health professions just shared a little more knowledge with one another.

00:00- Opening

00:18- Legal Disclosure

00:47- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

00:58- Hannah's Swiftie Song

01:20- Hannah's Explanation

03:35- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:57- Roland's Explanation

05:50- Hot Seat Intro

06:12- What's New?!

06:28- First Acceptance Speech!

07:11- New Weekly Blog!

08:00- Practice Update

09:20- Counselor, how? When?

09:45- PTSD Veterans

10:55- Art School instead?!

12:12- Hannah & Roland have history~

14:15- Hardest thing learned as a therapist

17:20- Comradery in Dual Relationships w/ Boundaries

19:45- Boundaries & Ethics

22:00- No Compromise; Be open & talk

23:00- Roland as a Client

24:10- Nurture can be Damaging

25:35- Vulnerability

29:00- Hot Take #1

29:28- Grief is any loss

30:12- Grief is Complex

32:45- Small Griefs are Impactful

35:40- Acknowledgement & Acceptance

37:35- Hot Take #2

39:00- Full Body Experience

39:40- Mainstream & Cross Specialties

42:00- Herbalism, Massage, Acupuncture

44:10- Limited Knowledge

48:15- Medical Community & Resources

49:12- Changes in School Curriculum

53:26- Changes in best practice

53:50- INNER CHILD?! HANNAH WHY!?

55:39- The Body here in the present is most important

58:38- Outro

Fake It 'Til You Make It

Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:02:01 GMT

Imposter Syndrome? You mean that thing that everyone experiences where we think we're not good enough? Where we think we aren't doing the things we're supposed to be doing despite evidence to the contrary? You mean a Millennials biggest enemy? Yes, that Imposter Syndrome. Or, in other words, the persistent inability to believe that one's success is deserved or has been legitimately achieved as a result of one's own efforts or skills. Join Hannah and Roland alongside today's special guest, Sydney Smedley, LPC as they discuss the in's and out's of what it's like to battle against OR use to your advantage all parts of the imposter.

Where in the World is the Messy Millennial?

Fri, 30 May 2025 09:02:03 GMT

Carmen Sandiego, who? She's got nothing on Hannah Shahabi and all the stamps in her passport! The podcast turns up the heat and has our resident messy millennial in the hot seat not only to get some further insight in who she is and how she got here, but also some deeper and more personal hot takes that aren't part of our regularly scheduled program. Whether it's Hannah's niche love of working with the Overwhelmed Achiever, her take on Emotional Intelligence vs. Maturity, or perhaps one you all can imagine make's Roland bounce in his seat a little: the chronic nature of societal trauma---it's time to TRULY get to know Hannah Shahabi, LPC.

If You Give A Mouse A Cookie

Fri, 16 May 2025 09:32:00 GMT

In the immortal, yet possibly problematic, words of Kate Moss, "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels". Diet culture, what healthy means, and the perception & need to be skinny by any means necessary has been a trope and trend for decades. This week, Hannah and Roland discuss the mental health around diet culture alongside Metabolic Health & Fitness Coach Taylor Trost (@fitnfoodwithtaylor on Instagram). Particularly, they discuss the uprising trend of Semaglutides, commonly known as Ozempic, what it does to the body, the brain, and some controversial research going on in the field of physical & mental health. What's the good, the bad, and the ugly of it all? Well they're here to give you the skinny on it.

TW: This Episode discusses eating disorders, ozempic trends, and emotional health related topics.

00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:20- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:35- Hannah's Explanation

05:08- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:40- Roland's Explanation

07:27- Hot Take Intro

07:33- Diet Culture

07:46- Taylor's Intro

08:48- Taylor's Hot Take

09:06- Diet Trends

10:40- What is Ozempic?

11:53- Side Effects

13:25- Coaching & Ozempic

15:05- A Plan in Place

17:05- Hannah's Hot Take

18:24- Perpetuating "Skinny Girl" Trope

19:34- Redefining Health

20:15- Eating Disorders

24:10- Self Worth & Value

24:38- Roland's Hot Take

26:05- Semaglutide & Depression

29:13- Obesity is now a Disease?!

33:10- Where to find Taylor!?

34:07- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

35:15- Physical + Mental + Emotional

36:25- Voice & Verbiage

38:00- Comfortability in PME

38:20- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:00- Disordered Eating vs Eating Disorders

40:00- Meaning Making & Redefinition

41:10- Desperation for Change

41:55- Autonomy & Age & Control

42:40- Under the Cushion (Roland)

43:11- Control of Self vs Control of World

43:40- "Pride" in Skinny

44:26- Remembering to Enjoy Things

45:11- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

45:53- "Earning" Junk Food

46:18- Clean Plate Mentality

47:23- Mindful Eating

48:08- Autoimmune Disease

49:32- Doctors/Medical Shame

53:48- Mindfulness & Health

55:24- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

What's Your Sign?

Fri, 02 May 2025 09:00:00 GMT

Hey baby, what's your sign? Hannah and Roland look to the stars this week in order to discuss just how deeply a horoscope can mean not only to them, but to anyone interested as well. Horoscopes have been around for a millennia, first appearing in the Mediterranean region sometime around the late 2nd or 1st century BCE. The word "horoscope" comes from the Greek words "horos", meaning "hour", and "skopos", meaning "observer". Join Hannah and Roland as they discuss horoscopes relation to religion, how in depth your horoscope & birth chart can really go, its place, if any, in the therapeutic process, and if these two Scorpio's truly do sting.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Get in Loser! We're High Functioning

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:00:00 GMT

This week, Hannah and Roland have their first guest on the podcast! Lily Shahabi, a consultant based in Boston, and Hannah's sister! Lily has struggled with this week's subject, joins to uniquely discuss how she handles life with High Functioning Anxiety. High-functioning anxiety refers to individuals who experience anxiety symptoms while maintaining a high level of functionality in various aspects of their lives. They may appear successful and put-together externally, but internally struggle with feelings of stress, self-doubt, and fear. Quite frankly, that sounds like your average millennial if you ask us...

TW: Discussion on Eating Disorders, Disordered Eating, Ozempic Trends, and Health related topics.

00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:20- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:35- Hannah's Explanation

05:08- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:40- Roland's Explanation

07:27- Hot Take Intro

07:33- Diet Culture

07:46- Taylor's Intro

08:48- Taylor's Hot Take

09:06- Diet Trends

10:40- What is Ozempic?

11:53- Side Effects

13:25- Coaching & Ozempic

15:05- A Plan in Place

17:05- Hannah's Hot Take

18:24- Perpetuating "Skinny Girl" Trope

19:34- Redefining Health

20:15- Eating Disorders

24:10- Self Worth & Value

24:38- Roland's Hot Take

26:05- Semaglutide & Depression

29:13- Obesity is now a Disease?!

33:10- Where to find Taylor!?

34:07- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:15- Behind the Couch (Roland)

35:15- Physical + Mental + Emotional

36:25- Voice & Verbiage

38:00- Comfortability in PME

38:20- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:00- Disordered Eating vs Eating Disorders

40:00- Meaning Making & Redefinition

41:10- Desperation for Change

41:55- Autonomy & Age & Control

42:40- Under the Cushion (Roland)

43:11- Control of Self vs Control of World

43:40- "Pride" in Skinny

44:26- Remembering to Enjoy Things

45:11- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

45:53- "Earning" Junk Food

46:18- Clean Plate Mentality

47:23- Mindful Eating

48:08- Autoimmune Disease

49:32- Doctors/Medical Shame

53:48- Mindfulness & Health

55:24- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

It's F.I.N.E.

Fri, 04 Apr 2025 10:00:05 GMT

Season 2?! Already? Join Hannah and Roland as they kick off the start of season two as they revisit the podcasts namesake--Fine. Discussing the origins of the word Fine as well as how the meaning of the word has changed and been reinvented over time, Hannah and Roland discuss how they each use the word themselves and how they see others, particularly their clients, fall into the trap and mundane use of the word. Whether you feel f*cked up, insecure, neurotic, or emotional, tune in as two millennial licensed professional counselors try and see if they can't reinvent the word yet again. Welcome back!

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland continue to develop hot take after hot take on a wide array of therapy topics, buzzword media phenomena, and pop culture. It's these discussions that help fuel their millennial hearts and spun this podcast into a continued existential crisis of a reality. Very on brand, right? With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland continue to express their thoughts and want to appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality. It is forever their goal for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Don't You Know That You're Toxic

Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:30:00 GMT

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal Disclosure

00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:12- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:23- Hannah's Swiftie Song

01:58- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:01- Hannah's Explanation

05:03- Roland's Explanation

06:29- Hot Take Intro

06:35- Toxic Positivity Definitions

10:05- Positivity Practice is a Mindset

11:30- Zoom In & Out Example

12:34- Toxic Behaviors & Awareness

13:01- Nuanced Awareness

17:01- Societal Influence

18:49- Emotional Intelligence & Maturity

20:32- Hannah's Personal Experience

21:30- Roland's Personal Experience

23:12- Intentionality

24:51- CBT Mirror's

25:38- CBT Examples

26:55- Differences

28:00- Toxic Positivity with Self

29:49- Healthy Positivity

32:17- Takeaways

35:22- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

35:35- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

37:25- Behind the Couch (Roland)

39:44- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

43:02- Under the Cushion (Roland)

50:50- "Okay please hold while I...."

50:52- Outro

Baa Baa Black Sheep

Fri, 14 Mar 2025 09:30:00 GMT

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:19- Roland's Swiftie Song

02:37- Hannah's Swiftie Song

08:25- Chatter?? (Might be okay though)

08:38- Hot Take Intro

08:44- The Black Sheep

09:05- Internal Family Systems Approach

10:32- Examples of Parts

12:23- IFS Work Example

13:50- Family Roles vs Parts

14:33- Black Sheep vs Cycle Breaker

15:20- Hannah's Hot Take

15:42- Roland's Hot Take

18:23- Hannah's Sub-Hot Take

18:41- Black Sheep Potential

20:27- Black Sheep + Empowerment = Cycle Breaker

22:48- Black Sheep, Woe as me?

23:30- Cycle Breaker is Active, Black Sheep is Passive

24:32- "Not Everyone is a Cycle Breaker"

25:32- Battle between Self & Inner Child

26:25- Manager & Firefighter

27:30- Nuance of the Black Sheep

27:43- The Difficult Child

28:42- Takeaways

29:39- Therapy is important!

30:36- Not just family (Society/Work/Etc.)

32:04- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

32:12- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

38:39- Behind the Couch (Roland)

43:14- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

47:10- Under the Cushion (Roland)

52:03- Outro

That Girl

Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:30:00 GMT

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Hannah Intro

00:53- Roland Intro

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

02:03- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:30- Hannah's Swiftie Song

04:46- Hot Take Intro

04:52- Selfish, Self Care, Self Indulgence

05:46- Self Care Definition

06:03- Selfish Definition

06:23- Self Indulgence Definition

06:36- F@ck, Marry, Kill

07:33- Roland's Soap Box

08:22- Roland's Explanation

09:26- Self Care vs Selfish

10:16- Example of Selfish

12:17- Better Example of Selfish

13:20- Hannah's Explanation

14:17- Self Care = Fulfillment

14:55- Societal Constructs of Selfishness

15:52- Further examples by Hannah

16:24- Further examples of Self Care vs Selfish

20:37- Selfishness is a Complex Theory

21:40- Self Indulgence

22:32- Self Care can be Self Indulgence

23:11- LIBRA OR GEMINI?!

23:34- Hannah's Self Indulgence

24:56- Selfish vs Self Indulgence

25:35- Roland's Soap Box part deux

26:20- Hot Takes

29:00- Part 2 Preview

29:09- Hannah & Roland's F@ck, Marry, Kill Order

29:32- Hannah's Order

30:32- Roland's Order

31:30- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

31:46- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:51- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:57- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:09- Under the Cushion (Roland)

42:20- Outro

Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:00:00 GMT

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Hannah Intro

00:53- Roland Intro

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

02:03- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:30- Hannah's Swiftie Song

04:46- Hot Take Intro

04:52- Selfish, Self Care, Self Indulgence

05:46- Self Care Definition

06:03- Selfish Definition

06:23- Self Indulgence Definition

06:36- F@ck, Marry, Kill

07:33- Roland's Soap Box

08:22- Roland's Explanation

09:26- Self Care vs Selfish

10:16- Example of Selfish

12:17- Better Example of Selfish

13:20- Hannah's Explanation

14:17- Self Care = Fulfillment

14:55- Societal Constructs of Selfishness

15:52- Further examples by Hannah

16:24- Further examples of Self Care vs Selfish

20:37- Selfishness is a Complex Theory

21:40- Self Indulgence

22:32- Self Care can be Self Indulgence

23:11- LIBRA OR GEMINI?!

23:34- Hannah's Self Indulgence

24:56- Selfish vs Self Indulgence

25:35- Roland's Soap Box part deux

26:20- Hot Takes

29:00- Part 2 Preview

29:09- Hannah & Roland's F@ck, Marry, Kill Order

29:32- Hannah's Order

30:32- Roland's Order

31:30- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

31:46- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:51- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:57- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:09- Under the Cushion (Roland)

42:20- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

Stay off my lawn!

Fri, 31 Jan 2025 10:30:00 GMT

00:00- Opening

00:15- Legal Disclosure

00:45- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:56- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:11- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:22- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:07- Hannah's Swiftie Song

06:41- Hot Take Intro

06:46- Boundaries

07:43- Taught Expectance/No need for boundaries

08:19- When did boundaries become boundaries?

09:20- Kinds of boundaries

10:20- Boundaries to self

11:28- Buzzwords

11:48- Boundaries are for yourself

12:52- Rules vs Boundaries

13:49- Free or Available

14:05- Example of our boundaries

15:10- Boundaries we don't like

15:52- Example of our boundaries

16:43- Discussing needs within boundaries

18:08- Open/Concrete boundaries

19:30- Stealth expectations within boundaries

19:59- Not wanting to see boundaries

20:55- Meet in the middle/compromise boundaries

21:47- Weird cut, maybe?

21:48- Boundary Follow Up & Fleshing out

24:20- Level of self awareness within boundaries

25:25- Tells of inner experience

27:02- Self Discovery within Boundaries

27:59- Keeping/Disregarding People & Boundaries

28:16- Process of discussing boundaries

31:34- Comparison of Hot Takes & Boundaries

32:41- Enmeshed boundaries

33:58- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:06- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:54- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:41- Behind the Couch (Roland)

43:29- Under the Cushion (Roland)

44:13- Outro

Are you Actually Fine?

Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:00:00 GMT

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in Virginia. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal disclosure

00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:25- Roland's Swiftie Song

04:33- Hannah's Swiftie Song

08:10- "Alright we're recording"

08:10- Hot Take: Stealth Expectations

09:19- Hannah's version of Stealth Expectations

10:45- Roland's version of Stealth Expectations

12:28- Stealth Expectations vs High Expectations

13:53- Thought errors/Thought Distortions vs Expectations

14:32- Self vs Societal Born Expectations

16:49- Are expectations even necessary?

17:33- Linear healing

18:31- Why do we have expectations?

20:07- Goals vs Expectations vs Obligations

26:00- Unsaid Expectations

27:46- Where are unmet expectations felt?

28:50- Mirroring Conditional Love

30:25- Meeting needs

31:08- Comparing hot takes

36:01- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

37:40- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion explanation

38:07- Behind the Couch (Roland)

40:54 -Behind the Couch (Hannah)

45:31 -Under the Cushion (Roland)

49:52 -Under the Cushion (Hannah)

55:22-Outro clip

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*

Origin Story

Fri, 03 Jan 2025 12:36:45 GMT

00:00- Opening

00:18- Personal Intros (Hannah)

00:27- Personal Intros (Roland)

00:42- Legal disclosure

01:11- YSF origin (Hannah & Roland)

06:03- How Hannah & Roland met

06:58- Process of becoming a therapist

07:28- Surviving grad school

08:21- YSF origin continued

09:29- Taylor Swift teaser/structure

11:00- Taylor Swift continued

13:16- Podcast setup/structure

14:49- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*

You Seem Fine Podcast

With Main Character Energy, Comes Great Responsibility

I Like My Money Where I Can See It-- Hanging in my Closet.

The Cost of Caring (Not Covered by Insurance)

Who is the Overwhelmed Achiever?

Her Sister Was a Witch!

What is the Playlist Protocol?

So You Think You Can Advocate?

You is Kind. You is Smart. You is Important.

I've Got a Blank Slate, baby, and I'll Write Your Name

If You Wanna Be My Lover

Chef's Kiss

Mirror Mirror on the Wall

A Whole New World

It's Not A Phase, Mom!

Fake It 'Til You Make It

Where in the World is the Messy Millennial?

If You Give A Mouse A Cookie

What's Your Sign?

Get in Loser! We're High Functioning

It's F.I.N.E.

Don't You Know That You're Toxic

Baa Baa Black Sheep

That Girl

F^©k, Marry, K!ll

Stay off my lawn!

Are you Actually Fine?

Origin Story