Therapy Tea: Demystifying the Mental Health Profession

48. PART 2: Perseverance and Chipping Away at the Old, White Man System (ft. Katie La, LPC-S)

Wed, 15 Apr 2026 06:03:00 GMT

This week we are sharing the rest of our conversation with Katie La who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Houston Baptist University and a Master of Arts in Christian Counseling from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Katie owns a group practice called Cognitive Revival in Frisco, Texas, which provides a wide range of counseling and clinical services. Katie is trained in EMDR, somatic therapy and brainspotting and works as a clinician and a supervisor with a decolonized approach.

Resources mentioned:

Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice by Jennifer Mullan
I Am Sam (2001 film)
Katie’s practice website: www.CognitiveRevival.com
Katie’s social media: IG: CogRevPLLC, TikTok: CogRevPLLC

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48. PART 1: Perseverance and Chipping Away at the Old, White Man System (ft. Katie La, LPC-S)

Wed, 08 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT

This week Karen learned the American Counseling Association is updating their Code of Ethics and wants feedback from you! Better late than never, we always say, so, please join us in participating in moving our profession into the modern era! ACA Code of Ethics | Counseling Nexus: ACA’s Digital Press, Elevating Access to Counseling Knowledge

This week we are sharing Part 1 of our conversation with Katie La who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Houston Baptist University and a Master of Arts in Christian Counseling from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Katie owns a group practice called Cognitive Revival in Frisco, Texas, which provides a wide range of counseling and clinical services. Katie is trained in EMDR, somatic therapy and brainspotting and works as a clinician and a supervisor with a decolonized approach.

With Katie her nontraditional approach to becoming a counselor, to being a counselor, and to running a group practice. Katie talks about how she took a break from her education and internship process to be a stay at home mom and how that impacted her perspective in the field. Katie shares her approach as a practice owner in how she makes sure to outsource as much as she can so she can keep only what works best for her on her plate. A big thing we explore with Katie is her perspective about decolonizing the profession and her way of counseling as she seeks to uncover who people really are.

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47. RE-RELEASE: Alason Rides Again for our 2nd Anniversary! (ft. Alason Polanco, LPC)

Wed, 01 Apr 2026 06:00:00 GMT

Today, in honor of our 2nd (what!?!) anniversary, we’re re-releasing our very first ever interview with the fantastic Alason Polanco, who has been down for whatever with Therapy Tea Podcast from the start! We hope you enjoy hearing from her again because what she talks about is still relevant today. We also hope you revel in how far we've come...sound quality, editing, it's all getting super professional over here, but we're still just having a blast with our friends!

Alason is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from St. Edwards University in Austin, Texas and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas. She is currently working for a company that specializes in the treatment of eating disorders and mood disorders as a Travel Senior Primary Therapist. While she is primarily Austin, Texas based, she is also working on getting her counseling licenses in both Washington and Maryland.

With Alason we discuss her experience growing up in a Hispanic immigrant family where emotions and mental health were not discussed, how she learned about setting personal and professional boundaries the hard way, and what it was like to white-knuckle her way through active depression and untreated ADHD while attending college. We talk about neurodivergence, the minority experience in eating disorders, and founding a queer teen group in a small Texas town. We discuss her passion for advocating and standing up for yourself along with the importance of therapists going to therapy, making friends in grad school, and taking every minute of your PTO.

Resources mentioned:

PBS video-short series “Decolonizing Mental Health”: https://www.pbs.org/show/mysteries-mental-illness/specials/
Institute of Chicana/o/x Psychology and Community Wellness: https://www.razapsych.org/
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Giver by Lois Lowry
River City Advocacy's LGBTeen program: https://rivercityadvocacy.org/
OutYouth: https://www.outyouth.org/
Fiesta Youth: https://www.fiesta-youth.org/
RAICES Texas: https://www.raicestexas.org/about

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46. PART 2: Ketamine Ambassador and the Flexibility of Nursing (ft. Tatyana Gustafson, PMHNP)

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 06:01:05 GMT

This week we are sharing the rest of our conversation with Tatyana Gustafson who is an Advanced Practice Registered Nurse and a Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Family Studies and Human Development from Texas Tech University, a Master of Science in Nursing with a certification as a Clinical Nurse Specialist, and a Post Masters certificate in Psychiatric/Mental Health. Tatyana is the owner of Sol Psychiatry with offices in the Austin area where she offers medication management and ketamine assisted psychotherapy.

Resources mentioned:

Raquel Bennet, PsyD presentation on ketamine: https://www.kriyainstitute.com/videos/
Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari
Tatyana’s practice website: www.solpsychiatry.org

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46. PART 1: Ketamine Ambassador and the Flexibility of Nursing (ft. Tatyana Gustafson, PMHNP)

Wed, 18 Mar 2026 06:04:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned that she’s changing her therapeutic style as she’s moving through her ABA (applied behavior analysis) program. Have you ever noticed your style change as you work in this field? What have been the triggers for that for you?

This week we are sharing Part 1 of our conversation with Tatyana Gustafson who is an Advanced Practice Registered Nurse and a Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Family Studies and Human Development from Texas Tech University, a Master of Science in Nursing with a certification as a Clinical Nurse Specialist, and a Post Masters certificate in Psychiatric/Mental Health. Tatyana is the owner of Sol Psychiatry with offices in the Austin area where she offers medication management and ketamine assisted psychotherapy.

With Tatyana we talk about what ketamine is, how it has been historically used in medical and mental health treatment, and how it has become a treatment method that she is super passionate about championing. Tatyana shares about her journey becoming a nurse and realizing how much she liked staying present with people grappling with their feelings through life’s challenges. Tatyana is so great at explaining complex things in ways that make sense and we loved talking psychedelics in mental health care with her!

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45. PART 2: Not Interested in Private Practice and Rejecting Any Shame in That (ft. Nicole Garcia, LPC)

Wed, 11 Mar 2026 06:01:07 GMT

This week we are sharing the rest of our conversation with Nicole Uhlenbrock Garcia who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Texas A&M University Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University in San Marcos. Nicole currently works part-time as a school counselor in the San Antonio area and PRN (on an as needed basis) as a case manager and group counselor at an inpatient hospital for adults.

Resources mentioned:

Children’s Bereavement Center of South Texas: https://cbcst.org/
ESC-20, Education Service Center, Region 20 trainings: https://www.esc20.net/apps/pages/pd-home
ACT Made Simple: An Easy-To-Read Primer on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy by Russ Harris
Nicole recommends that everybody meal prep!
- Nicole’s meal prep salad recipe: HEB baby spring mix, HEB bagged sweet kale chopped salad (with poppyseed dressing), shredded/matchstick carrots, broccoli florets, and shredded cooked chicken (use instant pot)

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45. PART 1: Not Interested in Private Practice and Rejecting Any Shame in That (ft. Nicole Garcia, LPC)

Wed, 04 Mar 2026 07:01:02 GMT

This week Karen learned that effective networking is just about being yourself, answering genuine questions, and talking about what you actually care about in public with others, even strangers! You never know where it will lead or who needs to know about you and your work!

This week we are sharing Part 1 of our conversation with Nicole Uhlenbrock Garcia who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Texas A&M University Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University in San Marcos. Nicole currently works part-time as a school counselor in the San Antonio area and PRN (on an as needed basis) as a case manager and group counselor at an inpatient hospital for adults.

Nicole shares how her interest in what she calls “the universality of human suffering” brought her into counseling and particularly into grief work. Nicole has some absolutely great insights to share about working with and supporting others experiencing grief. With Nicole we also talk about her consistent interest in wanting to work with kids as a counselor and how she chose the LPC route vs. the school counselor route initially. She talks about how important for her it has always been to have some variety in her professional life and how she knew from early on that working in private practice is not for her. Nicole also gets vulnerable and shares how the commonly heard messaging that private practice is the “gold standard” for counselors has impacted her. Nicole has figured out a way to make her license work best for her, which is awesome!

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44. Listening to People’s Stories and Healing IN Community (ft Beth Cortez-Neavel, LPC, LMFT-Associate)

Wed, 18 Feb 2026 07:00:00 GMT

Warning: this episode contains discussions of sexual assault, intimate partner violence, and trauma.

This week Jazmin learned that shifting where she works so that she’s more comfortable makes a huge difference in the way she feels about working and the quality of counseling she provides. It’s like a revelation to Karen to consider that maybe it’s okay to meet virtually with a client from the privacy of one’s own back porch.

This week we are sharing our conversation with Beth Cortez-Naevel who is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Associate in Texas. They hold a Bachelor of Arts in Communications from Simmons College, a Master of Arts in Journalism from University of Texas at Austin, and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos. Beth is currently working in her private practice in the Austin area called Queer AF Therapy. They focus on working with queer and trans folks, survivors of sexual assault, sexual abuse, family and intimate partner violence.

With Beth we talk about their first career in Journalism and how their initial attraction to that work was a love of hearing other people’s stories. Beth shares the way they noticed some ethical ick in the journalism industry and then shifted professions into becoming a counselor. We totally vibe with Beth about the way acronyms do not actually help us remember anything and we all have at least half a dozen training recordings that we signed up for but haven’t gone back to finish listening to. With Beth we talk about the decision making and process to being dual licensed. We talk about what it’s like to try to work and live under oppressive, toxic, and deeply flawed systems; the challenges of being helping professionals in a capitalist system. Beth shares what it’s been like for them to come out as non-binary, how they think about the ethics of self-disclosure, and particularly how they show up as a therapist working within their own community.

Resources mentioned:

Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice by Jennifer Mullan
Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft (somewhat outdated now)
SANE (Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner) exam portral: Grey’s Anatomy (TV show) episode, Season 15, Episode 19, “Silent All These Years”
Unladylike Podcast, Episode 33, "How to Get a Rape Kit."
His Dark Materials trilogy by Philip Pullman (The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass)
The Cool Therapists Collective
Beth’s practice website: www.queeraftherapy.com
Beth’s Instagram: @queeraftherapy

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43. Dishwasher Existentialism and the Relentlessness of Life (ft. Lisa Baker, LCSW)

Wed, 04 Feb 2026 20:52:40 GMT

This week Karen learned more about the different boundaries to set around texting/emailing/talking with clients between sessions. It’s not cut and dry! We’d love to hear from y’all how you navigate these things in your practice. Also, Jazmin recommends the show Shrinking and shares how it connects to this topic.

This week we are sharing our conversation with Lisa Baker who is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker Supervisor in Texas, and a Licensed Independent Clinical Social Worker in Massachusetts. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from University of Massachusetts Amherst and a Master of Social Work from Tulane University School in New Orleans. Lisa is currently in solo private practice in the New Braunfels area. She focuses on working with adults in her practice and is an IFS (Internal Family Systems) Certified Therapist.

With Lisa we talk about the trade offs in practicing virtually or in-person with clients, and the journey we all go through in finding the best-practice work boundaries that are unique to you. Lisa shares about the reality of challenges and narrow options for getting approved clinical hours for her transition between being an LMSW and an LCSW. With Lisa we talk about our frustrations about getting taken advantage of in this career due to a frequent lack of options and a lack of basic business knowledge. Lisa talks frankly about the relentlessness and unavoidability of life and grief. Be sure to check out Lisa’s Book, Edges of the Soul!

Resources mentioned:

The Wild Edge of Sorrow by Francis Weller
"Birthday" by Andrea Gibson: https://youtu.be/ftc46KYnQWE?si=7N8kOgP7b-1Frelw
Edges of the Soul by Lisa Baker, LCSW-S
Lisa’s practice website: www.lisabakerlcsw.com
Lisa’s Instagram: @lisabakerlcsws

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42. Listening to the Wisdom of our Bodies and the Power of Walking (ft. Jeana Martin, LPC)

Wed, 21 Jan 2026 07:00:04 GMT

Warning: this episode contains mentions of suicide.

This week Jazmin learned about environmental and biological correlates of SIB in children. One of the most fun aspects of our profession is getting to learn new stuff as we strive to teach others!

This week we are sharing our conversation with Jeana Martin who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas, a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner, and a Spiritual Director. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Angelo State University, a Master of Divinity from Princeton Theological Seminary, and a Master of Arts in Counseling from the Seminary of the Southwest in Austin, Texas.

Jeana currently runs a small private practice called Pilgrims on a Journey where she focuses on working with trauma from primarily her Somatic Experiencing approach. With Jeana we talk about what the difference is between being a spiritual director and a counselor in working with clients. She goes into depth about how she sees and approaches boundaries in her work. Jeana really leans into her Somatic Experiencing expertise in all of the ways that she works with clients and so we explore several of the different ways she does that. Jeana leads groups on pilgrimage, in particular on the Camino de Santiago in Spain, and we loved hearing her talk about that, including some things to think about before offering these types of services as a professional.

Resources mentioned:

Somatic Experiencing Training: https://traumahealing.org/training/
In An Unspoken Voice by Peter Levine
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Gift of the Red Bird: The Story of a Divine Encounter by Paula D'Arcy
The Way (2010 film)
The Way, My Way (2024 film)
Jeana’s practice website: https://www.pilgrimsonajourney.org/
Jeana’s instagram: @Pilgrimsonajourney
Upcoming Retreats and Pilgrimages with Jeana: https://www.pilgrimsonajourney.org/retreats-pilgrimages

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41. Slinging Brisket on the Side and Having a CEO Mindset (ft. Kealan Muth, LPC)

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 07:00:00 GMT

This week Karen learned that BEHC is the boy who cried wolf. Let’s all get together and advocate for quarterly bulletins instead of sporadic, non-specific, and often error-laden emails from our licensing board regarding “rule updates.”

This week we are sharing our conversation with Kealan Muth who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. He has a bachelor’s degree in Biology and Psychology from University of Oklahoma and a Masters in Counseling Psychology from Texas A&M University - Central Texas.

He works as the Clinical Director of Alchemy Collective, a group practice located in New Braunfels. He both manages the practice and has his own caseload of clients, where he specializes in couples work (esp. high conflict couples), trauma intensives, and neurodivergence. With Kaelan we discuss the true crime to counselor pipeline, his CPS experience, and how he channeled his initial interests in biology and psychometry into his specialties as a counselor in private practice. Because Kaelan works as a Clinical Director, he shares some details about managing employees, including the challenges around professionalism.

Resources mentioned:

Fragility Of Trust: Exploring The Neuroscience, Psychology, and Real World Applications For Building And Repairing Trust by Kealan Muth
Dr K videos on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HealthyGamerGG
Go touch grass with your feet!
Alchemy Collective practice: https://alchemycollectiveaustin.com/locations/new-braunfels

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40. Holiday Special: It's Xmas Eve and All Through the House...

Wed, 24 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT

This week we’re dropping a very silly conversation between Jazmin and Karen all about closing out another year! 2026, here we come! This one is light and fun: we discuss both terrible and beloved Christmas movies, the particular trauma that has been 2025, and how we’re both really looking forward to this year just ending already. We’ve also got podcast changes happening in 2026 and we need your feedback!

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39. School Counseling Requires Self-Advocacy and the Insurance Ponzi Scheme (ft. Robin Burleson, LPC, PMH-C)

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 07:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned that not only are worksheets not *all bad*, but also, she actually kinda likes them. [Gasp!] That’s right y’all - done properly and with intention, worksheets in therapy can be really useful and helpful. Just don’t use them wrong (which is really easy to do).

This week we are sharing our conversation with Robin Burleson who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas and a certified Perinatal Mental Health Counselor. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Human Development and Family Studies from the University of North Texas and a Master of Education in Counseling from the University of North Texas.

Robin has a private practice called Her Journey Counseling where she focuses on providing individual therapy for women and teen girls. With Robin we discuss some of the logistical things to think about before offering something like “walk-and-talk” therapy in your practice. She breaks down school counseling, including what it is, challenges in being supported administratively as a school counselor, and how it is an amazing learning and work experience option for LPC-Associates. With Robin we also explore her shift into private practice and specializing in perinatal mental health -- including explaining and defining that for everyone all the time! She joins in our complaints about insurance companies generally and how they directly interfere with delivering mental health services effectively.

Resources mentioned:

The Private Practice Pro: https://www.theprivatepracticepro.com/
Join the Texas Counseling Association: https://www.txca.org/membership/membership-benefits
The album, "Firstborn" by Nicolle Galyon: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kigUu1wldoUnaYhQv5oRfOtMQNdcEpTaU
The TV series, One Tree Hill (2003), available on Hulu!
Robin’s social media: Instagram: @herjourneycounseling
Robin’s practice website: www.herjourneycounseling.com

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Mental Motherhood BONUS: Dog Moms! Yes, it Still Counts.

Sun, 30 Nov 2025 18:15:36 GMT

It’s the final episode of our special series and we’re closing it out on a high note with a silly bonus! We’re chatting about being dog moms -- the most dismissed and underappreciated of the motherhood experiences! We’re going into how it’s not as easy as it looks and no one even tries to give us a Mother’s Day card for our efforts. It’s a thankless job, but somebody’s gotta do it.

Resources mentioned:

Slow drinking water bowl: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J4PJNZF?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_20
Elevated dog beds for outdoors: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VKPQZX8?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_19&th=1
Fluff and Tuff toys: https://fluffandtuff.com/shop/

ADOPT FROM SHELTERS! Please adopt locally when you can!

PAWS Shelter of Central Texas: https://pawsshelter.org/
Humane Society of New Braunfels Area: https://www.hsnba.org/
San Antonio Pets Alive!: https://www.sanantoniopetsalive.org/
Austin Pets Alive!: https://www.austinpetsalive.org/

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Mental Motherhood #10: Whisper Words of Wisdom, Let it Be (ft. Jonnie Wilson, LPC)

Wed, 19 Nov 2025 07:02:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to the incomparable Jonnie Wilson about being the matriarch of her family and getting all the way into great-grandparenthood! Jonnie’s kids are so grown that they’re starting to try to take care of her now! Jonnie is still as full of spunk and as independent as ever, but everything is on the cusp of another big relational shift and it’s still about keeping solid boundaries while prioritizing connection. As always, Jonnie shares her wisdom about how to remember what really matters in life - FAMILY.

Want more Jonnie? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #23: Being Part of the Solution and Bridging Gaps in Communities (ft. Jonnie Wilson, LPC)

Jonnie’s practice: https://speakingheart2heart.com/

Resources mentioned:

Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey
The GRIEVE Method: 7 Practical Steps for Grievers to Heal, Grow and Rebuild Their Lives by Bradley Vinson
What This Kid Wants Adults To Know About Grief by Bryce Fields

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Mental Motherhood #9: Finally, They’re Gone! (ft. Kate Walker, Ph.D., LPC-S, LMFT-S)

Wed, 12 Nov 2025 07:04:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to the inspirational Kate Walker about being in that dreamed about phase of motherhood: they’re independent adults and you’ve got an adorable grandbaby! Quite frankly, it sounds like Kate’s doing it right. She’s sharing how this stage of motherhood still really connects with counseling work: constant awareness of countertransference and boundaries!

Want more Jonnie? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #35: Being the Outer Nesting Doll and the Adventure of Supervising (ft. Kate Walker, Ph.D., LPC-S, LMFT-S)

Kate’s training website: https://katewalkertraining.com/
Kate’s Podcast: https://texascounselorscreatingbadassbusinesses.buzzsprout.com/
Kate’s book: The Clinical Supervision Survival Guide by Dr. Kate McLellan Walker

Resources mentioned:

1-2-3 Magic by Thomas W. Phelan (Pre-K Through Grade 8 and Teen editions
The Dance of Anger: A Woman's Guide to Changing the Patterns of Intimate Relationships by Harriet Lerner
Year of Yes: How to Dance It Out, Stand In the Sun and Be Your Own Person by Shonda Rhimes

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Mental Motherhood #8: Teens. Nuff Said. (ft. Kelly Martin, LPC-S)

Wed, 05 Nov 2025 07:02:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to Kelly Martin about the pros and cons of getting into the teens stage with your kids! Now they’re more independent and able to take care of themselves, but we’re also in the thick of bigger, scarier emotional and life altering issues. Setting the groundwork early is necessary for your kids’ success at this stage.

Want more Kelly? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #24: Tearing up the House and Mastering the Scary Insurance Learning Curve (ft. Kelly Martin, LPC-S)

Kelly’s practice, KM Counseling Services: https://kmcounselingservices.com/ (accepting new clients and new clinicians!)

Resources mentioned:

The Whole Brained Child by Dan Siegel

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Mental Motherhood #7: Minivan Escort Service (ft. Candice Fraser, LPC)

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 06:00:02 GMT

This week we’re talking to Candice about having middle schoolers now - with all the awkwardness and hilarity that that includes - and how she’s changed her work focus because of it.

Want more Candice? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #15: Owning Being a "Generalist" and Boring CEs (ft. Candice Fraser, LPC)

Candice’s podcast: The Couch Next Door Podcast
Candice’s Instagram: @candicefraserlpc

Resources mentioned:

Good Pictures Bad Pictures: Porn-proofing Today's Young Kids by Kristen A Jenson and Gail Poyner
Get a Belgian waffle maker! ;-)
Screen Sanity: https://screensanity.org/
Aro Box: https://www.goaro.com/

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Mental Motherhood #6: They're Mine Now Too, Sort of… (ft. Britney Eglinton, LPC-S)

Wed, 22 Oct 2025 06:04:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to Britney Eglinton about the grey area of motherhood: stepmotherhood. For her it’s a privilege and joy, but also often tricky to navigate and lonely. Britney has always been a career-oriented, driven individual who then fell in love with and married a father of two girls, and now structures her life choices around her instant family, while simultaneously struggling to feel like she fully fits into the unit. This one’s all about being both in and out, and the pressure to do both things really well and at just the right moment!

Want more Britney? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #9: From FBI Reject to New Therapist Incubator (ft. Britney Eglinton, LPC-S)

Britney’s practice - counseling and supervision: https://www.riseupcounseling.com/

Resources mentioned:

https://nachokids.com/what-is-nachoing-nacho-parenting/
https://www.loveandlogic.com/
The Single Girl's Guide to Marrying a Man, His Kids, and His Ex-Wife: Becoming A Stepmother With Humor And Grace by Sally Bjornsen

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Mental Motherhood #5: Splitting the Baby (ft. Kristin Sharp, LCSW-S)

Wed, 15 Oct 2025 06:02:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to Kristin Sharp about what it’s like to be a divorced co-parent, struggling to navigate the boundaries of sharing parenting when not living together. There’s so much loss of control and grief in the divorce experience and when it’s happening in-tandem with trying to parent a small child, it’s really tough -- we’re grateful that Kristin gets vulnerable and goes into it all with us!

Want more Kristin? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #29: Loving Your Overhead Projector and Keeping Your Dream Alive (ft. Kristin Sharp, LCSW-S)

Kristin’s practice, Blue Psychotherapy: https://www.bluepsychotherapy.com/

Resources mentioned:

The Power of Discord: Why the Ups and Downs of Relationships Are the Secret to Building Intimacy, Resilience, and Trust by Claudia M. Gold and Ed Tronick
The Marriage Story (2019 film)

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Mental Motherhood #4: Sick Days Turn into Sick Weeks (ft. Sena Moran, LMHC)

Wed, 08 Oct 2025 06:00:00 GMT

This week we’re talking to Sena Moran about terrible twos and threenagers! It’s that joyful time of being a parent where they still need you all the time and they’ve also got big opinions! Plus, they’re enrolled in daycare and school, but they still seem to be home sick more than they aren’t. Sena talks about learning how different each kid can really be and about adjusting her own boundaries and expectations around trying to work from home with small children.

Want more Sena? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #22: Crashing Upwards and Pioneering Teletherapy (ft. Sena Moran, LMHC)

Sena Moran’s website: https://www.senamoran.com/
ACT Yourself Course: https://act-yourself.teachable.com/p/actyourself

Resources mentioned:

Good Inside: A Practical Guide to Resilient Parenting Prioritizing Connection Over Correction by Dr. Becky Kennedy
- Dr. Becky’s website: https://www.goodinside.com/

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Mental Motherhood #3: Now We're Outnumbered (ft. Kelsea Puckett, LPC)

Wed, 01 Oct 2025 06:03:02 GMT

This week we’re talking to Kelsea Puckett about having more kids than adults in the house and the extra challenges (and trauma!) that comes with having an infant (or two!) with medical issues right from the jump.

Want more Kelsea? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #6: All the “Extra Work” and Self-Care Makes No Money (ft. Kelsea Puckett, LPC, LSOTP)

Kelsea’s practice, San Marcos Counseling, contact here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/kelsea-puckett-san-marcos-tx/918545

Resources mentioned:

Big Little Feelings: https://biglittlefeelings.com/
Ms Rachel: https://www.youtube.com/@msrachel

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Mental Motherhood #2: Pregnancy is a Bitch (ft. Kim Knox, LMFT)

Wed, 24 Sep 2025 06:03:02 GMT

This week we’re talking to Kim Knox about her new baby girl, her miserable pregnancy, and then the mess of trying to return to work while still nursing.

Want more Kim? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep.#3: Navigating Your “Trauma Season” and Prevailing Through Hard Days (ft. Kim Knox, LMFT)

Kim’s practice: Holistic Solutions, https://holisticsolutionsnb.com/

Resources mentioned:

Baby Brezza bottle washer

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Mental Motherhood #1: Prepare for War (ft. Bobbie Melton, LPC)

Wed, 17 Sep 2025 06:00:01 GMT

This week we’re talking to Bobbie Melton about having her first baby and the sheer volume of planning she did before becoming pregnant and taking her maternity leave from her private practice.

Want more Bobbie? Check out our prior episode with her: Ep. #8: Petting a Cat Backwards and Asking Leading Questions (ft. Bobbie Melton, LPC)

Bobbie’s practice: Circle M Counseling, https://circlemcounseling.com/

Resources mentioned:

https://www.notion.com/

The Boppy pillow: https://www.boppy.com/

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Introducing our special series!: Mental Motherhood

Wed, 10 Sep 2025 06:00:02 GMT

This week we’re introducing our upcoming special 10 part series, Mental Motherhood. In this episode we’re sharing details about the series including why we’re doing this and what you can expect. We’re getting to the truth about being a mom and a mental health professional, just in case you think you want to try and do both.

Mental Motherhood starts next week with new episodes in the series released Every Week! YAY!

Prior guests making a reappearance in the series and the episodes you should catch up on first:

Ep. #3: Navigating Your “Trauma Season” and Prevailing Through Hard Days (ft. Kim Knox, LMFT)
Ep. #6: All the “Extra Work” and Self-Care Makes No Money (ft. Kelsea Puckett, LPC, LSOTP)
Ep. #8: Petting a Cat Backwards and Asking Leading Questions (ft. Bobbie Melton, LPC)
Ep. #9: From FBI Reject to New Therapist Incubator (ft. Britney Eglinton, LPC-S)
Ep #15: Owning Being a "Generalist" and Boring CEs (ft. Candice Fraser, LPC)
Ep. #22: Crashing Upwards and Pioneering Teletherapy (ft. Sena Moran, LMHC)
Ep. #23: Being Part of the Solution and Bridging Gaps in Communities (ft. Jonnie Wilson, LPC)
Ep. #24: Tearing up the House and Mastering the Scary Insurance Learning Curve (ft. Kelly Martin, LPC-S)
Ep. #26: Puking up Rocks and Treating Animals with Radical Acceptance (ft. Liz Stein, LPC)
Ep. #29: Loving Your Overhead Projector and Keeping Your Dream Alive (ft. Kristin Sharp, LCSW-S)
Ep. #35: Being the Outer Nesting Doll and the Adventure of Supervising (ft. Kate Walker, Ph.D., LPC-S, LMFT-S)

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38. Aligning with Your Unique Energy and Blending Alternative Practices (ft. Shawna Lovin, LPC-S)

Wed, 03 Sep 2025 06:02:02 GMT

This week Karen shares some stuff she learned about in an interesting recent training. Check out the book if you're curious too! Personality and Wholeness in Therapy: Integrating 9 Patterns of Developmental Pathways in Clinical Practice by Daniel J. Siegel, MD, and the PDP Group

This week we are sharing our conversation with Shawna Lovin who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Johnson C. Smith University in North Carolina and a Master of Arts in Forensic Psychology from The Chicago School of Professional Psychology.

Shawna currently works with an EAP full-time and then also runs a private practice on the side where she offers counselor supervision. Shawna shares her extremely unconventional journey into becoming a counselor and how she adapted her practice after realizing that direct client work is just not her jam. Say what?!? Shawna also talks about how some personal experiences pushed her into exploring perhaps less-conventional wellness ideas and practices, which then led her to the theory of Human Design, which then shifted her decision making in all areas of her life. Shawna is so honest and clear about who she is and how she shows up - she’s unique and she knows it! Listen in and be inspired by her authenticity and creativity in how she navigates this profession.

Resources mentioned:

Balance is B.S.: How to Have a Work. Life. Blend. by Tamara Loehr
Why We Can't Sleep: Women's New Midlife Crisis by Ada Calhoun
The Little Book of Hygge: Danish Secrets to Happy Living by Meik Wiking
Tina Vitolo (unconventional therapist in Atlanta): https://theblacksheepguide.com/
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/blacksheepguide
Understanding Human Design: The New Science of Astrology by Karen Curry
Watch the Marvel movies in cinematic timeline order: https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/marvel-movies-in-order/

Connect with Shawna!

Shawna’s social media: IG, YouTube & LinkedIn @ShawnaLovinLPCS
Shawna’s practice website: www.ShawnaLovinLPCS.com
Shawna’s podcast: Between a Hot Mess & a Therapist
- https://www.amazon.in/Between-Hot-Mess-Therapist/dp/B0CZG2LHY5

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37. The Wrecking Ball Effect and Finding Breathwork (ft. Kimber Achorn, LPC)

Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:04:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned so much about balancing returning to school while being a practicing counselor. What she’s learning in school - all about applied behaviorism - is also dove-tailing into her counseling work with her clients because it’s enabling her to explain so much so differently than before. We should all learn our ABC’s! (Antecedent, Behavior, Consequence)

Don't forget to check out The Couch Next Door podcast! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about We love Candice Fraser and you will too! Connect with Candice on Instagram @candicefraserlpc

This week we are sharing our conversation with Kimber Achorn who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Exercise Sports Science from Elon University in North Carolina and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas.

Kimber currently runs her private practice, Achorn to Oak Counseling, where she focuses on working with adult individuals wanting to connect with their true self and find meaning. She also does biodynamic breath work and is working on creating a nervous system reset program. With Kimber we talk about having a deep sense that this work is exactly what she’s supposed to be doing.

Resources mentioned:

Maybe You Should Talk To Someone: A Therapist, HER Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed by Lori Gottlieb
What My Bones Know: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma by Stephanie Foo
Where Should We Begin podcast by Esther Perel
Hidden Brain podcast
TED Radio Hour podcast
Ted Lasso (TV show)
Shrinking (TV show)
Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover
Kimber’s social media: Instagram @achorn2oak
Kimber’s practice: www.achorn2oakcounseling.com

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36. Disrupting the System and Decolonizing Mental Health (ft. Alyssa Cedillo, LPC-S, RPT-S)

Wed, 06 Aug 2025 06:03:00 GMT

This week Karen learned that she does not have a good way to re-calibrate to client work after a long vacation. We’ve talked about having transitions from client work back into home life, but what about the reverse? Let us know if you have any suggestions here because we both really wonder what are some options for how to transition back into therapeutic work-mode after being in vacation-mode.

Check out The Couch Next Door podcast! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about We love Candice Fraser and you will too! Connect with Candice on Instagram @candicefraserlpc

This week we are sharing our conversation with Alyssa Cedillo who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas and a Registered Play Therapist Supervisor. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from St. Mary’s University in San Antonio, Texas and a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from St. Mary’s University.

Alyssa currently serves as the Clinical Director of Tree of Life Counseling Center and is the Founder and President of the nonprofit Root of It Foundation, all based in San Antonio, Texas. Alyssa’s passion for decolonizing mental health services is palpable in this conversation with her and her entire career is focused on advocating for clients facing oppression, trauma, and intergenerational challenges, in navigating systemic barriers.

With Alyssa we discuss the importance of getting out in your community, challenging yourself to expand your perspective, and embracing discomfort as a necessary component of growth and healing - both as an individual and for a system. Alyssa does not shy away from saying the things that need to be said and is a role model for how to professionally be a megaphone pushing for change at every level. Alyssa is an inspiration to all of us to get more involved and to be active advocates!

Resources mentioned:

Me and White Supremacy Me and White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor by Layla F. Saad
My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem
The Quaking of America: An Embodied Guide to Navigating Our Nation's Upheaval and Racial Reckoning by Resmaa Menakem
Somatic Abolitionism workshops: https://blackoctopussociety.com/workshops-intensives/
Institute of Chicana/o/x Psychology: https://www.razapsych.org/
Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice by Jennifer Mullan
The Injustice Never Leaves You: Anti-Mexican Violence in Texas by Monica Muñoz Martinez
Alyssa’s social media: https://www.instagram.com/treeoflife_cc/ https://www.facebook.com/treeoflifecounselingcenterSA http://www.youtube.com/@treeoflifecounseling9136 https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssacedillotlcc/
Tree of Life Counseling Center: www.treeoflifecounselingcenter.org
Root of It Foundation: www.rootofit.org

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Introducing Badass Therapists Building Practices That Thrive Podcast: Behind the Mic

Wed, 30 Jul 2025 06:04:00 GMT

This week we're sharing an episode of Kate Walker’s podcast! Badass Therapists Building Practices That Thrive podcast is a consistent, relatable, Crucial resource for any mental health professional trying to navigate private practice. Kate’s always got tips, tools, advice, and interviews about everything private practice related on her podcast and in her Facebook group. If you’re working in private practice or considering getting into that space, you absolutely need this podcast in your toolkit.

In the episode we’re sharing today, you’ll hear Jazmin and Karen's conversation during a live webinar with Kate Walker and her badass therapists about the raw truths of therapy podcasting and what it’s been like behind the scenes in creating a podcast.

Check out all the episodes of Badass Therapists Building Practices That Thrive podcast: https://texascounselorscreatingbadassbusinesses.buzzsprout.com/ Episodes drop every Thursday and can be found wherever you listen to podcasts.

Get connected with Kate:

Kate’s Essential Guide to Private Practice: katewalkertraining.com/tea
Kate’s social media: Instagram: @katewalkertraining YouTube: @DrKateWalker
Two Facebook groups
- Texas Counselors Creating Badass Businesses: https://www.facebook.com/groups/badasscounselors
- Texas Supervisor Coalition: https://www.facebook.com/groups/texassupervisorcoalition
Kate’s training website: https://katewalkertraining.com/

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35. Being the Outer Nesting Doll and the Adventure of Supervising (ft. Kate Walker, Ph.D., LPC-S, LMFT-S)

Wed, 23 Jul 2025 18:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin wants to normalize the “summer slump”. It’s a real challenge for lots of mental health professionals in private and group practice and it’s not about you! Seasonal impacts are a little-discussed reality of this profession, particularly when you’re working outside of an agency or treatment center setting. Our recommendation, don’t take it personally, don't make big changes to how you do things during this time of year, and definitely don't Give a Mouse a Cookie!

Check out The Couch Next Door podcast! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about We love Candice Fraser and you will too! Connect with Candice on Instagram @candicefraserlpc

This week we are sharing our conversation with Kate Walker who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor and Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Music from UT Austin, a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Sam Houston State University, and a Ph.D. in Counselor Education from Sam Houston State University.

Kate has been a private practice owner for years, but is currently dialing back her direct client work as she transitions more fully into her work as a counselor educator, providing training to supervisors in Texas as well as supporting other clinicians in their business building.

With Dr. Kate we talk about how ridiculous it is to believe the lies about not being entitled to make a decent living in this profession. How many times have you felt like you’re *supposed* to be a poor martyr for the cause? Kate’s here to bust that nonsense myth with us and we are so grateful for her voice and passion in encouraging mental health professionals to stand up for their expertise and worth.

Listen to our conversation with Kate on her podcast (Episode #137 Behind the Mic: Raw Truths of Therapy Podcasting with the Hosts of Therapy Tea Podcast) here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2026902/episodes/17282586

Resources mentioned:

The Pumpkin Plan: A Simple Strategy to Grow a Remarkable Business in Any Field by Mike Michalowicz
You Are a Badass: How to Stop Doubting Your Greatness and Start Living an Awesome Life by Jen Sincero
The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss
My Next Steps: Create a Counseling Career You'll Love by Kate M. Walker
Year of Yes: How to Dance It Out, Stand In the Sun and Be Your Own Person by Shonda Rhimes
Find your local Chamber of Commerce and join!
Business Network International: https://www.bni.com/

Get connected with Kate!:

Kate’s Essential Guide to Private Practice: katewalkertraining.com/tea
Kate’s social media: Instagram: @katewalkertraining YouTube: @DrKateWalker
Two Facebook groups
- Texas Counselors Creating Badass Businesses: https://www.facebook.com/groups/badasscounselors
- Texas Supervisor Coalition: https://www.facebook.com/groups/texassupervisorcoalition
Kate’s Podcast: https://texascounselorscreatingbadassbusinesses.buzzsprout.com/
Kate’s training website: https://katewalkertraining.com/

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Introducing The Couch Next Door Podcast: The Friendship TEA

Wed, 16 Jul 2025 06:02:00 GMT

This week we're sharing an episode of the Couch Next Door podcast! This particular episode is Jazmin and Karen's conversation with Candice Fraser on her podcast, The Couch Next Door, about the story and depth of our friendship, which is at the foundation of our own podcast. Listen in and hear more about us and our origin story! Also, check out the rest of the series that Candice has done on friendship as an experience and phenomenon that deserves more attention, particularly as a vital component of wellness.

Check out all the episodes of The Couch Next Door podcast (where a happy hour meets a therapy session): https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about Episodes drop every Thursday and can be found wherever you listen to podcasts.

We love Candice Fraser and you will too! Connect with Candice on Instagram @candicefraserlpc

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34. Focusing on Men and Building the Parachute in the Air (ft. Kristal DeSantis, LMFT, CCTIP, CSTIP)

Wed, 09 Jul 2025 06:03:00 GMT

This week Karen learned something the hard way: always actually check your license date online before you cram for your required CE hours. Yep. Learn from her complete and utter brainfart. Here’s the link to check your date: https://bhec.texas.gov/renewing-a-license/ Do it now, y’all!

Shout out!: Go Brewing Non-Alcoholic Craft Beer: https://gobrewing.com/

Check out The Couch Next Door podcast! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about We love Candice Fraser and you will too! Connect with Candice on Instagram @candicefraserlpc

This week we are sharing our conversation with Kristal DeSantis who is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Communications from Peace College in North Carolina and a Master of Arts in Marriage and Family Therapy from Liberty University in Virginia.

Kristal is currently transitioning away from running a group practice doing couples therapy and into creating and running retreats for couples outside of the traditional therapy office. In her practice, Kristal’s work centers on helping men navigate their roles and needs in relationships, a focus inspired by the book she wrote for men, STRONG: A Relationship Field Guide for the Modern Man.

Resources mentioned:

I Don't Want to Talk About It: Overcoming the Secret Legacy of Male Depression by Terrence Real
STRONG: A Relationship Field Guide for the Modern Man by Kristal DeSantis
Breathwork: https://www.webmd.com/balance/what-is-breathwork
The Crowded Room (2023 series)
Baby Reindeer (2024 series)
Kristal’s social media: Instagram/Threads/BlueSky: @atxtherapist | Facebook: /strongloveatx
Kristal’s website: https://www.strong.love/

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33. Creating Good from Rumination and Cyberstalking is Real, Y’all (ft. Susan Stallworth, LPC)

Wed, 25 Jun 2025 06:04:00 GMT

Warning: this episode contains discussions of cyberstalking, harassment, and trauma.

This week Jazmin learned how fun it is to work with clients on writing and editing their text messages to others. It’s a perk of the job that we didn’t really learn in grad school, but it’s the opportunity to interrupt patterns and reinforce skills in real time. Perhaps only Jazmin and Karen think this sort of thing is fun in counseling…anyone else agree?

This week we are sharing our conversation with Susan Stallworth who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas, Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor in Colorado, and a Licensed Professional Counselor in Colorado. She holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Interior Design and a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology with an emphasis is Marriage and Family Therapy from Pepperdine University.

Susan currently works in private practice where she primarily works within the LGBTQ+ community, with complex trauma, as well as with personality and mood disorders. After a harrowing experience of online stalking and harassment, Susan researched and has developed an expertise in online privacy and safety for mental health professionals.

With Susan we discuss some of what happened to her, how isolated she felt in trying to navigate the situation ethically and safely, and how she has turned her real-life experience into a resource for others. We all NEED to hear this. Everyone who is in this field, go take her training on online privacy RIGHT NOW at https://susanstallworthcounseling.thinkific.com/.

Resources mentioned:

SPARC: https://www.stalkingawareness.org/
Crash Override Network: http://www.crashoverridenetwork.com/
Delete Me: https://joindeleteme.com/
Stalkers and their Victims by Paul E. Mullen , Michele Pathé , et al
DBT Skills Training Manual by Marsha M. Linehan
You Are the One You've Been Waiting For: Applying Internal Family Systems to Intimate Relationships by Richard Schwartz, PhD
Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker
I Know This Much Is True by Wally Lamb
Susan’s Online Privacy course: https://susanstallworthcounseling.thinkific.com/collections

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32. Writing Strongly Worded Letters and "Paying your Dues" is Bullshit (ft. Lauren McKay, LPC)

Wed, 11 Jun 2025 06:01:00 GMT

This week Karen learned how much sex education is required in counseling work, especially in couples counseling. The truth is that sex, intimacy (and the difference between those two!), basic sexual functioning, and consent are regular and frequent areas of focus in sessions with clients. Grad school did not prepare us for this! So, learn the facts and get comfortable talking about this stuff, cuz it’s part of the work! Our recommended starting place: the book Come as You Are by Emily Nagoski

This week we are sharing our conversation with Lauren McKay who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Texas State University in San Marcos and a Master of Arts in Community Counseling from the University of Texas at San Antonio.

Lauren is currently in private practice where she works with clients experiencing trauma and grief, and she is EMDR and IFS trained. Lauren has worked in a lot of different settings and ultimately found her way into treating trauma professionally through her own personal experiences with trauma and seeking treatment for herself. With Lauren we do a lot of mind-meld complaining about all the bullshit that we’ve encountered along the ladder of this profession - before and after grad school AND before and after licensure. Lauren is so passionate about calling out the hypocrisy in the profession and we are Here For It!

Resources mentioned:

American Manhunt: O.J. Simpson (2025 Netflix docuseries)
Kendhal Hart EMDR training: https://www.kendhalhart.com/emdr-training
Steel Magnolias (1989 film)
Lauren’s practice website: www.laurenmckaylpc.com
- Or Psychology Today profile: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/lauren-mckay-round-rock-tx/886001

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31. Popping Your Personal Bubble and Taking Your Time (ft. Lisa Kruse, LPC)

Wed, 28 May 2025 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned about a unique career path in the mental health profession: a counseling consultant. What’s that, you say? We’re all learning together here, but it sounds like a cool job to be the expert customizing connector for treatment options, and we’re both intrigued! #flowchartmaker #rolodexmanager #treatmentmatchmaker

This week we are sharing our conversation with Lisa Kruse who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from the University of Minnesota and a Master of Arts in Counseling from St. Edwards University in Austin.

Lisa currently operates a private practice in the Dripping Springs area called Spark River Counseling where she focuses on working with adult individuals, women with ADHD, and trauma from a somatic-focus. Lisa’s story into the counseling profession is so vulnerable and refreshing because she took about 10 years to get fully licensed; as a full time parent, she eased into the profession gradually and we so appreciate her helping us to normalize that way of doing this! With Lisa we also get into a fun debate (or debacle? - you decide!) about the “magic” of counseling, which she appreciates with a sense of awe and wonder.

Resources mentioned:

Bob Newhart “Stop It” Sketch: https://youtu.be/bcSAQyzPcl0?si=Uin1s7oHcbG_b46e
The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and Our Quest for an Inspired Life by Lisa Miller
Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be by Becky Kennedy
- Dr. Becky’s Good Inside YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQcifo_12x84Uji6h1TVmKg
Lisa’s practice, Spark River Counseling: https://sparkrivercounseling.com/

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30. Calling out Predatory Practices and Being Transparent About Money (ft. Sarah Osmer, LPC-S)

Wed, 14 May 2025 06:03:00 GMT

This week Karen learned how important it is to continually remain attuned to and check in with your own bias and alignment with each person in the relationship (or lack thereof…) when you’re working with a couple, and shares some of the things she does to make sure she’s showing up ethically when working with clients who are more than one person.

This week we are sharing our conversation with Sarah Osmer who is a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Rhodes College and a Master of Education from the University of Houston.

Sarah currently owns a medium-sized group practice in Austin, the Carlisle Collective, where she sees clients, supervises, and manages the practice itself. She wears a ton of different hats as a practice owner and has become increasingly passionate about helping clinicians in their early careers develop and thrive. With Sarah we discuss how, as a supervisor and mentor, she really focuses on filling in the gaps of what’s missing in young professionals’ education.

Resources mentioned:

The Gift of Therapy: An Open Letter to a New Generation of Therapists and Their Patients by Irvin Yalom
Love's Executioner: & Other Tales of Psychotherapy by Irvin D. Yalom
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl
Kundalini yoga: https://www.yogajournal.com/yoga-101/types-of-yoga/kundalini/a-beginners-guide-to-kundalini-yoga/
Sarah’s social media: Instagram and TikTok: @sarahosmertherapy
Sarah’s practice, Carlisle Collective: https://www.carlislecollective.co/

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29. Loving Your Overhead Projector and Keeping Your Dream Alive (ft. Kristin Sharp, LCSW-S)

Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned she might have a previously unrealized session number threshold level. We talk about paying attention to one’s own feelings and emotional reactions when working with clients and the lack of education and preparation around termination, which is another skill needed for private practice that we didn’t know we needed.

This week we are sharing our conversation with Kristin Sharp who is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from the University of Texas at Austin and a Masters of Science in Social Work also from the University of Texas at Austin.

Kristin currently runs her own private practice in Austin, Blue Psychotherapy, where she focuses on adolescents, young adults, and families with a very intentional attachment approach. She is also an Adjunct Faculty Professor at UT Austin where she teaches one semester a year.

With Kristin we discuss how she job hopped her way into her most satisfying job situation at present! She talks about how we as counselors are not responsible for “fixing” people, instead she emphasizes the importance of being with. Kristin is fun, engaging, and the kind of person we hope you feel just as comfortable with as we do!

Resources mentioned:

You Are the One You’ve Been Waiting For: A New Approach to Intimate Relationships with the Internal Family Systems Model by Richard C. Schwart
The Class: https://www.theclass.com/
The Notebook (2004 film/novel by Nicolas Sparks)
Kristin’s practice, Blue Psychotherapy: https://www.bluepsychotherapy.com/

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28. Having Grit and Constructing the New System (ft. Kaimi Mattila, LCSW)

Wed, 16 Apr 2025 06:00:04 GMT

This week Karen learned about poverty. Karen shares details about her experience participating in a poverty simulation - which we learned about from Kaimi - including the emotions triggered and insights gained. We encourage everyone to find a poverty simulation near you to participate in because there’s a difference between intellectually getting it and experientially getting it.

In our interview, we talked to Kaimi Hideyo Mattila who is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker - Supervisor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology with a minor in Family Services from the University of Northern Iowa and a Masters in Social Work from Stephen F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches, Texas.

Kaimi currently runs her own clinical supervision practice called Empowered Clinical Supervision where she provides supervision for social workers, even though that’s not what we focus on in this conversation. We highlight instead the real systemic change that Kaimi is a part of in her role as the Mental Health Court Administrator for the Hays County Mental Health Court. With Kaimi we discuss what a mental health court is and does, as well as what it is like to work with people with mental health issues who intersect with the justice system. Kami is so passionate about her work and the work of mental health specialty courts all over.

Disclaimer: All views included herein are solely Kaimi, Karen, and Jazmin’s personal views and do not represent the views of the Hays County Mental Health Court or Hays County.

Resources mentioned:

John Maxwell leadership books: https://store.maxwellleadership.com/collections/all-books
Salary Negotiation with Deb Ellis podcast episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBqkjYorxIk
Hays County Mental Health Court: https://www.hayscountytx.gov/mental-health-court
Kaimi’s website for supervising: https://www.empoweredclinicalsupervision.com/
Just Mercy (2019 film)
Just Mercy: A Story of Justice and Redemption by Bryan Stevenson
Reality Check Texas: https://texasrealitycheck.com/
What is a Poverty Simulation?: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6001599/

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27. 1st Anniversary Episode: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly of Podcasting

Wed, 02 Apr 2025 06:00:00 GMT

In celebration of the one year anniversary of publishing Therapy Tea episodes, we are releasing a super special episode! (whoo hoo!)

Today, we’re opening up about our journey into the mental health podcasting fray, sharing the origin story of the Therapy Tea podcast, the details of our planning and preparing stage, and - of course - what we wish we had known before we started podcasting.

We are being vulnerable, sharing our imperfections and deep fears, and outlining exactly what’s been awesome about this and what has totally sucked about this. We’re sharing specific details about mistakes and fuck ups we’ve experienced so far, and what we’ve learned from those incidents -- so hopefully you can side-step them when you start your very own podcast! THANK Y'ALL for listening, for supporting, and for joining us on this journey as we try to stumble our way into something great!

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26. Puking up Rocks and Treating Animals with Radical Acceptance (ft. Liz Stein, LPC)

Wed, 19 Mar 2025 01:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin goes into the impacts of being ill-equipped in graduate school to properly identify and assess for personality disorders. It’s been such an eye-opener to get out into the actual work of counseling and find high-conflict personalities, disordered personalities, and attachment disordered folks just running amok and wrecking havoc, while also feeling shell-shocked and ill-prepared to handle that. Let’s all get more educated on this stuff together!

This week we are sharing our conversation with Liz Stein who is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Texas A&M. She also has a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Texas State University. Also, along with her co-counselor, Rusty the poodle, she has a certificate in Animal Assisted Counseling from Texas State AAC Academy.

Liz currently works at a partial hospitalization program, primarily working with adolescents and their families. With Liz we explore what it’s like to work at a higher level of care with higher acuity clients every day, including notes on crayon wrappers, managing parent expectations, and collaborating directly with outpatient clinicians. While Liz’s job sounds like a ton of work, she affirms that she is enjoying the chaos of it right now.

Liz often works with Rusty the poodle as her co-counselor and so we dig into what that’s like, including the differences between a therapy dog designation and an animal assisted counseling certification, how she handles setting boundaries with her clients and her dog, and her pet peeves about others’ treatment of animals.

Resources mentioned:

Animal-Assisted Therapy in Counseling 4th Edition by Cynthia K. Chandler
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Animal-Assisted Counseling Academy at Texas State: https://aac-academy.clas.txst.edu/

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25. Trauma Conscious Embodiment and Revising the Gauntlet Years (ft. Jennyfer Rosado, LPC-S, LCMHC)

Wed, 05 Mar 2025 01:00:00 GMT

This week Karen talks about the frequent reality of crunching CE requirements immediately before a license renewal. It’s tough always having the best intentions to get ahead, but then still ending up putting most of it off until the last minute. Why is it so hard to change this pattern?! There’s a tension between wanting to learn and complete CEs and having to block off time to not see clients in order to do that, so around and around we go.

This week we are sharing our conversation with Jennyfer Rosado, who currently runs a medium-sized group practice, Selah Trauma Counseling Center, in Wichita Falls, Texas. She’s a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor (LCMHC) in New Hampshire and a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas. She also has several certifications in trauma work, including Brainspotting and polyvagal. Jen holds a Bachelor of Arts in Criminal Justice and Psychology from Chadron State College in Nebraska. She also has two Masters degrees, one in Forensic Psychology from the Chicago School of Professional Psychology and one in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Walden University.

With Jennyfer we discuss her many, many moves around the country and how she ultimately found her therapeutic home working with trauma from a deeply authentic and integrative way. The group practice that Jennyfer has built in Wichita Falls embraces the idea of being trauma conscious in all aspects of the practice and her mentorship. Jennyfer has such a compassionate perspective about the experience of young and new professionals trying to find their way, especially into ethical and competent trauma work with clients. We know you’ll find Jen’s voice and vibe to be as soothing and safe as we did!

Resources mentioned:

Deb Dana’s website: https://www.rhythmofregulation.com/
The Polyvagal Theory in Therapy: Engaging the Rhythm of Regulation by Deb Dana
The Choice: Embrace the Possible by Edith Eger
Through My Eyes: Letters To My Clients (You) by Jennyfer Rosado
Jen’s practice website: https://selahtraumacc.com/
- Instagram: @selah_trauma_counseling
Jen’s courses/trainings and second book (The Many Pains) updates: https://jennyferrosado.com/

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24. Tearing up the House and Mastering the Scary Insurance Learning Curve (ft. Kelly Martin, LPC-S)

Wed, 19 Feb 2025 07:00:02 GMT

This week Jazmin learned that she just needed to finally finish reading The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog in order to get out of her “do I even know what I’m doing?” rut. We also share our favorite books for an effectiveness refresh!

This week we’re sharing our conversation with Kelly Martin! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor Supervisor in Texas, a Board Certified Music Therapist, and Certified in Trauma-Focused Cognitive Therapy. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Music Therapy (and a minor in flute performance!) from Sam Houston State University. She also has a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology from Bowie State University as part of the University of Maryland University systems.

Kelly is a Triple B! - A Bad. Business. Bitch. And we absolutely vibe with her! Kelly currently runs a medium-sized group practice, KM Counseling Services, in Schertz, Texas. She’s a hard-working, no-nonsense multi-tasker who is both relatable and intimidating. We are all just plain lucky to get on her calendar!

With Kelly, we dig into what it was like for her to build a thriving, multi-counselor private practice from the ground up. She absolutely insists that figuring out insurance is totally doable and, even though there are several gatekeeping mechanisms involved, it’s not impossible and there are mentors out there like her that want to make access more accessible. We discuss with Kelly her experiences taking the NCE while pregnant in Japan, working with adolescents at a short-term stabilization hospital, and the importance of having good boundaries and a thick skin as a private practice counselor. This one’s full of nuggets, y’all!

Resources mentioned:

Innovations in Psychotherapy Conference: https://innovationsinpsychotherapy.com/
Mind Over Mood: Change How You Feel by Changing the Way You Think by Dennis Greenberger and Christine A. Padesky
TF-CBT online training: https://tfcbt2.musc.edu/
I Think You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb
ClarityCon2025: https://www.claritycgc.org/claritycon2025-registration-is-open/
PESI: https://www.pesi.com/
Broadway shows:
- Dear Evan Hansen (https://dearevanhansen.com/)
- The Waitress (https://waitressthemusical.com/)
As Good as It Gets (1997 film)
Black Eyed Suzie by Susan Shaw
Kelly’s KM Counseling Services website: https://www.kmcounselingservices.com/
Survivors of Suicide Loss Group: https://www.kmcounselingservices.com/survivors-of-suicide-loss-group.html

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23. Being Part of the Solution and Bridging Gaps in Communities (ft. Jonnie Wilson, LPC)

Wed, 05 Feb 2025 07:00:03 GMT

Warning: this episode contains discussions of trauma, and descriptions of sexual abuse, sexual assault, medical abuse, and domestic violence.

This week Karen learned how to navigate through the embarrassment and horrendousness of being a gross human in front of a client, specifically, nearly coughing to death. What is a counselor to do when confronted with the choice between one’s own oxygen intake or empathizing with a client’s emotional breakdown? Well, the un-ethical choice, obviously.

February is Black History Month! How can you connect with, understand, and celebrate Black History? Great question! Here are some places to start:

This week we share our conversation with the incomparable Jonnie Wilson! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas who is currently in private practice. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in History and another Bachelor of Arts in English from Southwest Texas State University (now Texas State). She also has a Master of Arts in African and African American History from the University of Missouri in Columbia and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos.

With Jonnie we talk about how she came into her focus on identity work and life transitions with her individual clients in San Marcos, Texas. Jonnie shares a lot with us about working with marginalized populations, trauma, intergenerational trauma and exploring one’s cultural and familial legacy.

We also get into Jonnie’s work building community connections and resources, including conducting trainings and running Women of Color groups and women’s wellness retreats. Jonnie shares her perspective about important concepts like the myth of the Strong Black Woman, going to where people are to build awareness and resource connections, and using one’s own stubbornness as a tool for growth and achievement. We talk a lot with Jonnie about how she maintains her mission-oriented life in all of the choices she continues to make, whether it’s education, employment, community involvement, or travel! Jonnie is an absolute wealth of information and resources so, there is more where this came from!

Resources mentioned:

A Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present by Harriet A. Washington
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome: America’s Legacy of Enduring Injury and Healing by Dr. Joy Degruy
The Power of Attachment: How to Create Deep and Lasting Intimate Relationships by Diane Poole Heller
Break the Cycle: A Guide to Healing Intergenerational Trauma by Dr. Mariel Buqué
The Color Purple (1985 film)
Shaka Zulu (1986 TV mini series)
Jonnie’s professional website: https://speakingheart2heart.com/
Jonnie’s friend’s travel agency, Eye Adom Travel: https://www.facebook.com/eyeadomtravel/ and @eyeadomtravel

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22. Crashing Upwards and Pioneering Teletherapy (ft. Sena Moran, LMHC)

Wed, 22 Jan 2025 07:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin throws down on some of the scammy elements in our profession including all the re-up rules for various certifications and then the trainings that charge an arm and a leg for their CE credit (AKA PDF certificate) on top of the cost of the training content itself. It’s a rant that gets us both fired up because of all the rules that we have to follow that then cost us money to follow…sometimes we wonder, is this an MLM??

This week we’re sharing our interview with the delightful Sena Moran! She is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor in Florida and a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (or, BCBA). She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from the University of Florida and a Master of Science in Rehabilitation Counseling and Psychology from University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. She also completed the Behavior Analysis Sequence as an online certificate program through the University of North Texas to become a BCBA. Her origin story is super fascinating and we love digging into that with her!

Sema currently runs her own fully virtual private practice. She started practicing virtually way before most of the rest of us and even has some personal experiences with the virtual therapy corporate giant, Betterhelp, to share with us! With Sena we talk in some depth about Behavior Analysis and how her background in this continues to impact her counseling work with agoraphobia and becoming an ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) superfan/expert. She has a course on her website called ACT Yourself that’s a great introduction to ACT that you should check out to get familiarized with it and see if it’s a theory that’s a good fit for you!

Resources mentioned:

A Liberated Mind by Steven C. Hayes PhD
All the Harry Potter Books
- Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Harry Potter, Book 1) by J. K. Rowling
Sena Moran’s website: https://www.senamoran.com/
ACT Yourself Course: https://act-yourself.teachable.com/p/actyourself

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21. RE-RELEASE: Welcome! We're Glad You Found Us

Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:00:00 GMT

Today we're re-releasing our original first episode to kick off 2025! (Happy New Year!!) This is NOT because we ran out of interviews with interesting mental health professionals -- hardly!! In fact, we have so many great interviews lined up that we're damn near overwhelmed. Truly, the new year is what it is for our professional practices and then we also want to be sure to share the best possible content with y'all. So, as we start the new year, it felt right to remind ourselves of our mission, intention and focus for Therapy Tea Podcast. We'll be back in two weeks with more interviews!

Why, oh why, did I become a therapist? What was I thinking?!? Am I losing it? Or was I just misinformed?....

Today Jazmin and Karen, two licensed professional counselors from Texas, introduce the Therapy Tea podcast and discuss why they are even doing this to themselves and you. They talk about what you can expect to get out of listening to this podcast (they hope) and why they think this will be helpful to new, aspiring, and established mental health professionals. Thank you so much for listening!

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Disclaimer: All statements made on this podcast by hosts and guests are their individual personal perspectives only and are not necessarily shared by anyone else. The hosts and guests on this podcast are not speaking on behalf of all mental health professionals or the profession as a whole. This podcast is not therapy and does not establish a professional, therapeutic counseling relationship.

20. Holiday Special: A Merry Christmas To Us All!

Wed, 25 Dec 2024 07:00:00 GMT

This week we’re dropping a very special conversation between Jazmin and Karen all about the delights and dumpster fires of this holiday season! Join us, won’t you?!

We define what we mean by “the holiday season” and share some of our personal feelings, childhood memories, and current traditions for holidays like Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years. We talk about how our experience of the holidays has changed over time and get a little personal about the impact of grief around the holidays.

We also dive right into the unique charms and challenges of being a professional counselor over the holidays and explore some of the differences between working in an agency setting vs. a private practice setting during this time of year. We take a look at the realities of managing one’s own personal schedule over the holidays with the demands of clients - both established and new! - and the very real financial and “time off” constraints that anyone who is their own boss deals with. We also touch on clients giving gifts, burnout realities, and how to deal with family drama now that you just can’t un-see it.

If you need a break from yours today - we’ve got you, we see you, and we’re going through it too! Cheers to the holidays!

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19. Sweating Out of Your Eyeballs and Deciding to Retire (ft. Kim Frueh)

Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned the importance of embracing flexibility herself and the way it actually works when a counselor wants to change their schedule to prioritize important life events. Then, we announce and tease our special holiday episode on Christmas Day! The real countdown to Christmas starts now!

In our interview, we talked to Kim Frueh, who is currently retired from counseling work. She now owns the Body Shop Movement Studio in San Marcos, Texas and teaches yoga. She was previously a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Licensed Sex Offender Treatment Provider in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from the University of North Texas and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos.

As a professional counselor, she had quite a few different work experiences including working at a residential treatment program for adolescent sex offenders and running a group practice with several other counselors in Austin, Texas. Kim shares details about her group practice formation experience and what it meant to her work and practice once she had her daughter.

With Kim we talk a lot about her process and decision making in retiring from counseling work and into doing something else. We explore not just the thought process and emotional aspects of this for her, but also the little technical aspects like terminating gradually with clients. Kim is someone who still respects the counseling profession, maintains a deep love of helping and serving others, and exemplifies what it looks like to listen to your own needs and life purpose.

Resources mentioned:

Boundaries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend
Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel Heller
Ted Lasso (TV series 2020)
Shrinking (TV series 2023)
Body Shop Movement Studio: https://www.bodyshoptx.com/

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18. Getting to the Top of the Mountain and Still Feeling Lost (ft. Katelyn Preston, LMFT)

Wed, 27 Nov 2024 07:00:00 GMT

This week Karen was reminded how meaningful it can be to witness genuine client success as a helping professional and what it feels like to have a client “graduate” from therapy. Karen shares how a particular success story with a client has felt extremely emotional for her and triggered not only a profound sense of gratitude, but also an existential experience of awe and connection with humanity.

Today we talked to Katelyn Preston (AKA “KP”) who is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in Texas and Colorado. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Schreiner University in Kerrville, Texas and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling with an emphasis in Marriage, Couple, Family Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos. While she has previously worked in group practice, non-profit agencies, a state hospital, juvenile probation, and a residential facility for youth, Katelyn currently works in a solo private practice in Colorado where she focuses on relationship issues with couples and individuals.

Katelyn gets vulnerable about feeling lost in the counseling profession right now. She shares her experience questioning her chosen career path and wondering whether it’s normal that it often feels impossible to find the “right fit” career-wise. With Katelyn, we really go deep into a common, but somewhat taboo, topic of conversation in our profession. This topic is so close to Karen and Jazmin’s heart and the real reason for this podcast - so we really go all in with Katelyn on this! What a gift it was to have Katelyn be raw and honest, and share right along with us the struggle with identity and purpose that often comes even when you get to where you always thought you wanted to go.

Resources mentioned:

How To Do The Work by Nicole LePera
@the.holistic.psychologist (Dr. Nicole LePera Instagram)
How to Fail as a Therapist: 50 Ways to Lose Or Damage Your Patients by Bernard Schwartz and John V. Flowers
The Defining Decade: Why Your Twenties Matter--And How to Make the Most of Them Now by Meg Jay
A Couple's Guide to Communication by John M. Gottman
Practical Magic (1998 film)

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17. Building a Trauma Work Community and Falling for Your Agency Job (ft. Sarah Moreno, LPC)

Wed, 13 Nov 2024 07:00:00 GMT

Warning: This episode contains explicit discussions of child abuse and child sexual abuse.

This week Jazmin learned she’s still really bad at talking about money and shares how challenging it is for her to talk not only with clients about session fees, but also with her bosses/HR Department about her own pay scale. Jazmin gets vulnerable about how it went for her when she went in to ask for a raise. We explore how it can be so emotionally triggering to talk about money when it seems directly tied to our value and sense of worth, particularly in this profession.

Today we’re sharing our conversation with Sarah Moreno, a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas trained in TF-CBT, CFTSI, and EMDR. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology and Sociology from Texas State University - San Marcos and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos.

Sarah currently works as the Therapeutic Family Advocate Manager at the Children’s Advocacy Center (CAC) serving Bastrop, Lee and Fayette Counties. In our conversation with Sarah we talk a lot about what a “CAC” actually is and does for the community and how it serves children and families in the case of child abuse and victimization.

Sarah talks a lot about how empowering and fulfilling her experience finding an amazing work environment that enables her to grow, learn, be creative, and feel supported. She really emphasizes teamwork and the sense of community she has in the agency setting. Shout out to Sarah’s boss, Clinical Director Stacey Helm! (who - don’t worry - we’re going to nail down at some point and bring to y’all for an episode soon!)

With Sarah we explore what it’s really like to work professionally with trauma and child sexual abuse day in and day out - from how overwhelming to how rewarding it can be. We talk about how her understanding of trauma has “opened” through her work with it, particularly into her having a wider, more systemic perspective in how a child can be best supported and served in their healing process..

With her immersion in trauma and child abuse cases, Sarah shares how she has started thinking about self-care very differently than ever before. She talks about how, after attending training in the CE-CERT model (Components for Enhancing Clinician Engagement and Reducing Trauma), she was introduced to some helpful and novel ideas for managing secondary trauma, compassion fatigue, and a work-life balance.

Sarah’s final call to aspiring mental health professionals is to get out there and volunteer! - try out different things to better understand what you can and cannot handle professionally.

Please Consider Donating to the CAC!!! Sarah Did Not ask us to do this at all, but we are!! We want to include here the link to DONATE to the CAC to help them with the work they do, particularly around the holidays. If you feel so inclined, please consider donating your time, new clothing items, pantry items, or money: https://www.childrensadvocacycenter.org/how-to-help

Resources mentioned:

Brene Brown generally: https://brenebrown.com/
- The Power of Vulnerability TEDTalk: https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_the_power_of_vulnerability?subtitle=en
A Child Called “It” by Dave Pelzer
Such a Pretty Girl by Laura Wiess
Good Morning, Monster by Catherine Gildiner
Children’s Advocacy Center (CAC) serving Bastrop, Lee and Fayette Counties (https://www.childrensadvocacycenter.org/
Children’s Advocacy Centers of Texas - Find one near you! https://cactx.org/find-a-local-cac/
NCA sexual abuse statistics: https://www.nationalchildrensalliance.org/media-room/national-statistics-on-child-abuse/
Problematic Sexual Behavior training and resources: https://connect.ncsby.org/psbcbt/home
- https://test.ouhsc.edu/Portals/1349/Assets/Documents/PSB-CBT-S%20LC%20Info%20Guide%20181004.pdf

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16. You Gotta Humble Yourself and Don’t Scare Easy (ft. Merrik Hetherington, LPC)

Wed, 30 Oct 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Karen learned how important it is to shut the dogs out of her office when she’s doing virtual sessions from home. It’s a cascade of challenges and unintentional self-disclosure when working from home as a counselor, so get ready for it!

Today we’re sharing our conversation with Merrik Hetherington, a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas who holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from University of Texas San Antonio and a Master of Science in Mental Health Counseling, also from UTSA.

Merrik currently works in a group practice in North Austin providing therapy services to children, teens, young adults, and families. She is certified in PCIT - Parent-Child Interaction Therapy and does a lot of counseling work with parents, in particular.

With Merrik we discuss some challenges in the field like insurance payout and credentialing differences, the lack of standards for calling oneself a “specialist,” and the endless work shoring up boundaries with clients in real life. Merrik also has great advice on what clinicians who want to work with parents need to be prepared to do and reminds us of all the true grit it takes to be a mental health professional!

Resources mentioned:

Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself by Nedra Glover Tawwab
Transforming the Difficult Child: The Nurtured Heart Approach by Howard Glasser and Jennifer Easley
The Last Arrow: Save Nothing for the Next Life by Erwin Raphael McManus
Nedra Glover Tawwab’s Instagram: @nedratawwab https://www.instagram.com/nedratawwab/

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15. Owning Being a "Generalist" and Boring CEs (ft. Candice Fraser, LPC)

Wed, 16 Oct 2024 06:00:04 GMT

This week Jazmin shares about a recent experience when trying to confer and refer, specifically how the attitudes of some counselors seem to be overly abrupt, curt and - dare we say - pretentious. In our discussion on this, we highlight our frustration with what seems to be a counterproductive counselor culture of mistrust, competitiveness, and dulled personality expression in conversations between what should be like-minded professionals, particularly in the private practice arena.

Today we’re sharing our interview with Candice Fraser! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas with a Bachelor of Behavioral Sciences from Hardin Simmons University in Abilene, Texas and a Master of Arts in Health Psychology from Texas State University - San Marcos.

Candice currently works in private practice in Georgetown, Texas and is the host of her own podcast, The Couch Next Door! With Candice we find out about her unconventional path into both counseling and podcasting, as well as her deliberately identifying as a “generalist” in her practice. Candice shares how her practice has shifted and changed as her personal life experiences have changed, which is something that helps us feel a little more normal.

We also dive into with Candice the realities of continuing education in the counseling field, including how boring traditional CEs are, how useless some of those additional letters after your name can really be, and how difficult it can be to articulate what “rapport building” actually is.

We’re so excited to introduce y’all to Candice’s podcast, The Couch Next Door, and announce that we’ll be getting interviewed by her on her podcast soon! We’ll keep y’all posted on when that comes out.

Resources mentioned:

The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery by Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile
Barbie (2023 film)
America Ferrera’s Iconic Barbie Speech: https://youtu.be/CBqlDWHkdHk?si=KmiHmhGUEToOJWy2
The Couch Next Door Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2285228/about

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14. Finding Your Authentic Self and What Makes Your Fire Burn (ft. Justin Givan, LCSW)

Wed, 02 Oct 2024 17:41:20 GMT

This week Karen learned more about the challenges of trying to take vacation time when you’re a solo private practitioner. Punchline: it’s always a nightmare. And, while there are a few things you can do to make it less awful, it’s crucial to just anticipate that you won’t be able to just ‘pick up where you left off’ with your clients when you return.

After that bummer of an intro, we’re sharing our absolutely delightful interview with Justin Givan! He’s a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in Texas with a Bachelor of Science in Business Management from Simpson College, Indianola and a Master of Science in Social Work from University of Texas at Austin.

Justin currently works as a Senior Behavioral Health Specialist at a medical health facility, but his journey to his current position has been one full of twists, turns, moves, and profound insights! From a Midwest theater kid with aspirations to teach choral music, to a cruise ship and cabaret performer, to a business management major, to Texas to study social work, and then through residential treatment, group practice, and EAP counseling, among others -- it really seems like this guy has done it all.

With Justin we really get into the importance of being authentic and figuring out “what is going to make your fire burn” because it’s so relevant to career decision making and even preventing the dreaded burnout. Justin has some critical advice for those considering being in private practice as the gold standard of counseling achievement, and some tips for how to examine your wants and needs effectively.

Resources mentioned:

The Velvet Rage: Overcoming the Pain of Growing Up Gay in a Straight Man's World by Alan Downs, Ph. D
The Celestine Prophecy: An Adventure by James Redfield
More Than Two: A Practical Guide to Ethical Polyamory by Franklin Veaux and Eve Rickert (Note: there is also an updated, second edition published Sept 2024!
Colors of Austin Counseling group practice: https://www.colorsofaustincounseling.com/

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13. PATREON PREVIEW: Current Events Series #1: 10 Things Article Review

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week we're sharing a preview of our Patreon content with Everyone!

In this preview of the bonus episodes we are creating for our Patreon subscribers, we’re reading, reviewing, and reacting this week to an excellent article posted on Psychology Today, written by Jennifer Gerlach, LCSW: “10 Things Your Therapist Might Not Tell You.”

In this episode, we talk about the fact that Psychology Today does more than just post therapist profiles and explore what we think would be helpful for clients to know about therapists and the counseling process ahead of time. Follow along with us as we consider the times we actually do appreciate an open hour, how we think we’re actually significantly less enlightened than the average client, what counts as “feedback”, and how we navigate giving discounts on our rates. We also share some additional things that we’d like to add to the list!

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Resources mentioned:

Gerlach, J. (2024). “10 things your therapist might not tell you.” Psychology today. Retrieved from https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/beyond-mental-health/202403/10-things-your-therapist-might-not-tell-you

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12. Trusting Your Gut and Counseling as Your Side-Gig (ft. Julie Moss, LPC)

Wed, 04 Sep 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned that there are so many factors constantly impacting her ideal work schedule. Karen and Jazmin go into some detail about their experiences trying - and failing! - to find that one sweet spot for client session caseload and schedule that can just be settled on and stuck with. They talk about different factors that have impacted both of their journeys in grappling with the mythical ideal of a *flexible* schedule.

And then we’re sharing our interview with Julie Moss! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Sociology with a Minor in Psychology from Louisiana State University and a Master of Science in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Loyola University in New Orleans.

Julie currently works as a Clinical Account Executive with New Choices Treatment Center in San Antonio, Texas and she has a small private practice on the side. With Julie we explore the versatility of our counseling skills and developing an ability to really trust your gut, both around accepting new clients and going for completely different opportunities. Julie’s story is one that helps exemplify the variety of ways that private practice can look and the other career directions that one can go in the mental health world.

Resources mentioned:

Stopping the Noise in Your Head: the New Way to Overcome Anxiety and Worry by Dr. Reid Wilson
Reid Wilson’s Website: https://anxieties.com/
Hack Your Health: The Secrets of Your Gut (Netflix documentary)
The Mind, Explained (Netflix documentary series)
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
New Choices Treatment Centers: https://newchoicestc.com/
Julie’s profile: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/julie-moss-austin-tx/760127

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11. Grief Work is Fun and Rewarding -- No Really, We Mean It (ft. Summer Sahd, LPC)

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 06:00:00 GMT

Warning: this episode contain discussions of death, dying, and grief.

This week Karen and Jazmin go on a little bit of a rant about the lack of straightforward licensing reciprocity between states and the challenges that imposes on the work of counseling with clients who are completely oblivious to state licensing laws and regulations.

This week we’re talking to the lovely Summer Sahd! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas who holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from the University of Texas at Tyler and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos.

Summer currently works as a grief counselor and the Children’s Grief Program Coordinator at a non-profit grief center in New Braunfels where she provides community counseling services in addition to wearing lots and lots of different hats. Along with direct counseling, in her position at the grief center she coordinates three separate annual grief camps and runs them all like well-oiled machines!

In our conversation with Summer we talk a lot about grief and grief counseling work, which is something that all three of us have a passion for. The depth, humility, and universality in this conversation is unmatched in our interviews so far. We promise that this conversation is the opposite of a downer! Summer is so authentic, kind, and hardworking that you will be unable to stop yourself from listening all the way through as we explore what it’s really like to work with grief day-in and day-out. Don’t be afraid; listen in, because man, oh, man is this one a good one.

Resources mentioned:

The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work by John Gottman and Nan Silver
Love’s Executioner by Irvin D. Yalom
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl
Staring at the Sun by Irvin D. Yalom
Being Mortal by Atul Gawande
It’s OK That You’re Not OK by Megan Devine
How to Carry What Can't Be Fixed: A Journal for Grief by Megan Devine
It’s OK That You’re Not OK with Megan Devine Podcast
@refugeingrief (Megan Devine on Instagram)
Psychologist J. William Worden’s Four Tasks of Mourning
The Phantom of the Opera (1986 musical) (also a novel and several different film adaptations)
Hope Hospice Camp HavenHeart: https://www.hopehospice.net/grief/events

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10. Understanding Your Context and Maintenance Mode Shame (ft. Jordan Robertson, LMFT-S)

Wed, 07 Aug 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin was reminded that she needs to update her end-of-counseling-workday-ritual now that she’s shifted to working fully virtually from home. Sharing is caring except when it comes to counseling work stuff!

Today we’re talking with Jordan Robertson. She is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Supervisor in Texas and a Certified Gottman Therapist. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from McNeese State University in Lake Charles, Louisiana and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling - with an emphasis in Marital, Couples, and Family Counseling from Texas State University - San Marcos.

Jordan currently works in private practice where she specializes in relationship health and recovery, gender identity and transition, and works a lot with the LGBTQ+ population and non-monogamous couples. With Jordan we discuss what it has been like for her to get training and experience working with different underserved populations, particularly in a geographic area that has scant resources.

Jordan talks about her experience becoming a supervisor and the challenges in finding supervisees that are a good fit with her. With Jordan we explore the tension in our profession between “hustle culture” and ideals of extreme altruism, and what it feels like sometimes to simply be in maintenance mode. We also get into some things that are very specific to relationships and couples work since both Jordan and Karen could talk about that all day, but Jazmin stops us and we move on to other, fascinating aspects of Jordan’s journey and varied interests. We hope you love our conversation with Jordan as much as we do!

Resources mentioned:

The Sixth Sense (1999 film)
Hope Hospice Camp HavenHeart: https://www.hopehospice.net/grief/events
Eight Dates by John and Julie Gottman
Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse
The Gifts of Imperfection by Brene Brown (highly recommended as Audiobook!
"The power of vulnerability" - Brene Brown TEDTalk: https://youtu.be/iCvmsMzlF7o?si=M9-MMe4krmWEdYWy
Stamped from the Beginning by Ibram X. Kendi
Jordan’s website: https://www.jordanrobertsontherapy.com/

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9. From FBI Reject to New Therapist Incubator (ft. Britney Eglinton, LPC-S)

Wed, 24 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Karen learned a couple things about scheduling and time-keeping in sessions and taking responsibility when you, the therapist, royally mess up. Jazmin and Karen discuss a recent incident when Karen ran way, way over time in one session to the point where her subsequently scheduled clients just headed home with no idea what might have happened. Stopped clock? Serious accident? Alien abduction? WTF??? Regardless of the cause, the next stop is full-on embarrassment and effusive apologizing.

In our interview we’re talking with Britney Eglinton who puts the super in supervisor! She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor in Texas and a certified Trauma Informed Care trainer for the Texas Juvenile Justice Department. She holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology with a minor in Criminal Justice from the University of North Texas and a Master of Science in Counseling from Southern Methodist University.

Britney currently works in the counseling center of a major university in Texas as a therapist for college students and as the training coordinator for the clinic, where she supervises and organizes the internship program for master level students in the counseling and social work programs on campus. She also runs a private practice out of which she primarily provides supervision for LPC-Associates. Before transitioning to working in a university setting, Britney worked as the Director of Mental Health services in a juvenile detention facility for almost 12 years working with incarcerated youth and developing and running all mental health services in that facility.

We talk with Britney a lot about her particular inspiration and path into the mental health field, including her initial goal of becoming a behavioral analyst in the FBI. We dig into her passion for managing, leading, and mentoring other counselors and her work now focusing on advocating for and with new counselors as they navigate the minefield that is becoming a mental health professional.

Britney shares with us her experience in a “scared straight” version of a Counseling 101 class in grad school that gave her a leg up in some ways, but also left some things out. She talks about how it genuinely surprised her to realize just how much being in this profession would impact her personally, how much more inner work she would need to do, and the importance of being in therapy yourself if you want to be a therapist.

Resources mentioned:

Last Chance in Texas: The Redemption of Criminal Youth by John Hubner
Silence of the Lambs (1991 film)
Criminal Minds (2005 TV show)
The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk
The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog by Bruce D. Perry and Maia Szalavitz
Attached by Amir Levine and Rachel S. F. Heller
Freedom Writers (2007 film)
Inside Out (2015 film)
Winnie the Pooh stories by A.A. Milne

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8. Petting a Cat Backwards and Asking Leading Questions (ft. Bobbie Melton, LPC)

Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned how to let go of a little bit of her imposter syndrome and have confidence in claiming her own skills and expertise. Jazmin and Karen discuss navigating the common belief/myth that more time or longer experience always equals better counseling performance or outcomes.

Today we’re talking with Bobbie Melton. She’s a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in treating eating disorders. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Texas A&M University - College Station and a Master of Science in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Texas A&M University - Central Texas.

She currently works in solo private practice and before that she worked at an eating disorder hospital in various roles and at all levels of care. She often describes her clinical work as helping people trust their body again. With Bobbie we talk a lot about what it’s like to work in a private practice setting with people struggling with eating disorders and how that’s different from working in an in-patient setting with this population. She talks about the necessity of building a team of other professionals and networking to find good fits, as well as the importance of finding a balance in the specific types of counseling work one does.

Bobbie shares with us how she often experiences her therapy work as more like a negotiation than a willing collaboration with clients, and how she wishes she had learned earlier that there are more effective ways to work with individuals who are not really ready to consider making any changes. We discuss with Bobbie some specific tools that she has found to be helpful for her in her practice working with a lot of “ego syntonic” (new word!) diagnoses/behaviors/attitudes. Tune in to learn more!

Resources mentioned:

Never Split the Difference by Christ Voss
Forrest Gump (1994)
Circle M Counseling, https://circlemcounseling.com/ (subscribe for Sunday Soothies!)

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7. PATREON PREVIEW: Pop Culture Series #1: Inside Out movie

Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week we're sharing a preview of our Patreon content with Everyone! In this preview of the bonus episodes we are creating for our Patreon subscribers, we are watching and talking about the adorable Pixar movie from 2015, Inside Out. SPOILER ALERT for this episode: If you haven’t watched Inside Out yet, please do so before listening to us talk all about it. In this episode, we talk about our initial impressions of this animated movie about emotions and how we think it relates to mental health work. We share our favorite parts, parts that annoyed us a bit, the part that made us both cry, and how this movie can connect to work with clients, even yielding an idea for a processing activity! We had a lot of fun on this one and we hope you do too! We are both looking forward to watching Inside Out 2, which is out in theaters now. If you enjoy this type of content and want more of it, please consider becoming a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/TherapyTeaPodcast.

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6. All the “Extra Work” and Self-Care Makes No Money (ft. Kelsea Puckett, LPC, LSOTP)

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Karen learned that being a private practice counselor means doing all her own math and accounting work - which sucks. Karen shares how much she ends up procrastinating on the important financial tracking tasks inherent in running one’s own business and how many little things require basic math skills, which she hated having to learn in grade school.

Today we talked to Kelsea Puckett. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Licensed Sex Offender Treatment Provider in Texas. She holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Texas A&M University and a Master of Arts in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Lamar University. She currently works in two settings as a counselor: at a private group practice and a residential treatment facility. Her clinical focus in each of these settings is very different. In the private group practice she sees children, adults, and couples, with a focus on women with fertility issues and then at the residential treatment facility she works with adolescent boys with problematic sexual behaviors.

In our conversation with Kelsea we explore the differences between working in inpatient and outpatient settings with clients, how to not take things home, and setting professional boundaries. We also talk a lot about all the additional, unpaid and unseen aspects of being a counselor no matter the clinical setting, from administrative tasks, setting rates, connecting with local resources, networking, and participating in additional training, to the basic demands of self-care and managing one’s own personal life in order to even be capable of providing competent, therapeutic care.

Kelsea shares her experiences feeling completly unprepared for all the extra work outside of just doing the therapeutic work of counseling that would be demanded of her in this field. Partly because of her experiences, Kelsea is a huge advocate for counselors being connected with each other and with other mental health resources so she also shares her perspective on the importance of networking, case conferences, and asking questions in our profession.

Resources mentioned:

She’s Come Undone by Wally Lamb
Local Mental Health and Behavioral Health Authorities: https://www.hhs.texas.gov/services/mental-health-substance-use/mental-health-substance-use-resources/find-your-local-mental-health-or-behavioral-health-authority

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5. Providing Culturally-Rooted Care and Paying for More School After School (ft. Felicia Segura, LPC)

Wed, 29 May 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week Jazmin learned what it’s like to experience a huge caseload jump - like from 5 to 30 clients in less than two weeks! Jazmin shares how the initial rapport building phase of therapy work can be the most emotionally draining, especially when that’s 100% of what you’re doing because all of your clients are new, and how her self-care routine has had to undergo a complete and total overhaul as a result.

Today we’re talking with Felicia Segura. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas and holds a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling with a concentration in Marriage, Family and Couples, also from Texas State University. She currently works for Prickly Pear Therapy and Training in Austin, Texas as a Clinical Therapist where she focuses on providing culturally-rooted care to individuals, couples, and adolescents.

With Felicia we discuss the challenges in working at Child Protective Services where she spent over 10 years of her career as an Investigator, a Case Worker, and a Kinship Development Specialist. We discuss her graduate school experiences of working full-time throughout and having to figure out on her own all of the specifics of licensing and transitioning into the actual profession of being an LPC.

We talk a lot with Felicia about how she connects with and explores the impacts of culture on the mental health field and dig into her passion for working with clients from a culturally-rooted perspective. One big thing we learned from talking with Felicia is that culturally-rooted care is all about having an understanding that culture plays a role in every aspect of someone’s life.

Resources mentioned:

Institute of Chicana/o/x Psychology and Community Wellness: https://www.razapsych.org/
Latinx Therapists Network: https://latinxtherapy.com/
Black Behavioral Health Network: https://www.blackbehavioralhealthnetwork.com/
The Giver by Lois Lowry
Prickly Pear Therapy and Training Website: https://pricklypeartherapy.com/
Prickly Pear Therapy and Training Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/explore/locations/300579170504083/prickly-pear-therapy-and-training/

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4. Patreon Preview!: Ethics of a Podcast - Part 1

Wed, 15 May 2024 06:00:00 GMT

This week we're sharing a preview of our Patreon content with Everyone! In this preview of the bonus episodes we are creating for our Patreon subscribers, we are including Part One of a two part series on Ethics (AKA the funnest!). In this series we are talking through the ethical considerations of our decision to start this podcast and lay bare the real process of using an ethical decision making model that we learned in grad school to explore and consider the potential impact of the Therapy Tea podcast on our clients and our professional work. In this episode you’ll hear us talk about our ethics class experiences, how we each approach ethical dilemmas now, and the obstacles to using multi-step ethical decision making models developed in research in real practice. We discuss the ethical principles of the counseling field and how they apply to our podcast, the modern challenges of working with outdated codes and reactive rules, and identify many of the specific codes and rules we need to consider and/or adhere to as we move forward into podcasting and content creation. We hope you enjoy being a fly on the wall as we explore together in an entirely unscripted way what it’s really like to use an ethical decision making model.

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Resources mentioned:

American Counseling Association 2014 Code of Ethics available at: https://www.counseling.org/resources/ethics/ethical-decision-making
Forester-Miller, H., & Davis, T.E. (2016). Practitioner’s guide to ethical decision making (Rev. ed). - PDF no longer available online, scan available in Patreon post
Texas Behavioral Health Executive Council Consolidated Rulebook for Professional Counseling located at: https://www.bhec.texas.gov/statues-and-rules/index.html

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3. Navigating Your “Trauma Season” and Prevailing Through Hard Days (ft. Kim Knox, LMFT)

Wed, 01 May 2024 06:00:00 GMT

Warning: this episode contains discussions of trauma and mentions suicide.

This week Karen learned more about the importance of personally screening potential clients ahead of scheduling. While screening is a time-consuming, thankless, and unpaid administrative task, it is also a crucial tool in managing one’s schedule and in actually providing the best information and care to clients.

Today we’re talking with Kimberly Knox. She is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in both Texas and Washington and holds a Bachelor of Science in Psychology from Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas and a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology with an emphasis in Marriage and Family Therapy from Pepperdine University in Malibu, California. She has also completed 200 hour Registered Yoga Training and incorporates yoga into her work with clients. She currently runs her own private practice wellness center in New Braunfels, Texas where she specializes in working with adult individuals and couples from a systems and holistic treatment perspective.

With Kim we discuss what it means to have a systemic perspective as a therapist and how she works with trauma with her clients. We talk about what she considered most important when she chose her graduate school program and what it’s been like to build a new client base and business after moving to a new location. We discuss her experiences of feeling alone and isolated in private practice and what it feels like to navigate the really difficult days that can often happen in the mental health field.

Resources mentioned:

Blink by Malcolm Gladwell
Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell
The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk
Hill Country Marriage Workshop: https://hillcountrymarriageworkshop.com/

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2. Rising from the Ashes of Burnout and Embracing Your Therapy “Style” (ft. Alason Polanco, LPC)

Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:00:00 GMT

Today we’re talking with Alason Polanco. She is a Licensed Professional Counselor in Texas and holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from St. Edwards University in Austin, Texas and a Master of Arts in Professional Counseling from Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas. She is currently working for a company that specializes in the treatment of eating disorders and mood disorders as a Travel Senior Primary Therapist. While she is primarily Austin, Texas based, she is also working on getting her counseling licenses in both Washington and Maryland.

Resources mentioned:

PBS video-short series “Decolonizing Mental Health”: https://www.pbs.org/show/mysteries-mental-illness/specials/
Institute of Chicana/o/x Psychology and Community Wellness: https://www.razapsych.org/

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

The Giver by Lois Lowry
River City Advocacy's LGBTeen program: https://rivercityadvocacy.org/
OutYouth: https://www.outyouth.org/
Fiesta Youth: https://www.fiesta-youth.org/
RAICES Texas: https://www.raicestexas.org/about

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1. Welcome! We're Glad You Found Us

Tue, 02 Apr 2024 22:08:32 GMT

Why, oh why, did I become a therapist? What was I thinking?!? Am I losing it? Or was I just misinformed?....

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Trailer

Thu, 15 Feb 2024 18:23:25 GMT

Why, oh why, did I become a therapist? What was I thinking?!? Am I losing it? Or was I just misinformed?....

Jazmin and Karen, two licensed professional counselors from Texas, introduce the soon-to-launch Therapy Tea podcast. Thank you so much for listening!

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